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    #41
    Chuck do you even know anything about the American people or the country.

    Liberals have lost their mind and are ending real fast.

    The border shit is shit and it is driving Democrats who originated from Mexico to the Republican party.

    It's not white and black.

    americans are working and happy.

    Americans are making money on stocks and happy.

    Americans are building and travelling and enjoying their time.



    Canadians are Shitting the bed.

    Keep believing Trudeau is the answer.

    Canada the Mexico of the north.

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      #42
      SF3. I am not sure how vacationing in Florida each winter gives you any special insights into the lives and circumstances of many Americans? Its a big and diverse country with lots of low income families. Many of which cant afford health care or health insurance.

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        #43
        Chuck half my family is American. So yea I kind of got an idea what's going on.

        They are everything from Truck drivers to school teachers to Computer science majors, to electricians etc.

        But keep preaching as I just love the solar panels at your acreage.

        Natural sun in Florida yea it works there but ugly as sin.

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          #44
          The difference in Ab and Que isn't about personal income levels, its more about socialism vs capitalism. Ab prefers to pay a higher wage and let people direct their spending. That extra income is taxed and redistributed. Que chooses to fund expensive social programs and have people make less. So Ab has a annual income $20k higher than Que but Que had funded daycare and all other goodies.

          Maybe clawing back equalization is as easy as just having more govt funded social programs in Ab. The govt is a poor steward of our money but its better than dumping it all in another province who hates us. The feds have no problem clawing it out of oil workers hands but if that money was being spent on day care and other socialized services they would be loathe to take it.

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            #45
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            SF3. I am not sure how vacationing in Florida each winter gives you any special insights into the lives and circumstances of many Americans? Its a big and diverse country with lots of low income families. Many of which cant afford health care or health insurance.

            You should go and see for yourself. I know you have this pre-conceived notion that health care is outrageous in US, but we have tried their system and both dental and medical treatments that we bought were way cheaper than here. Canadians are being fleeced and they think they are privileged.

            As for happy people, we’ve travelled and stayed for long periods in US, noticed hundreds of thousands of Canadians love being there and are welcomed with open arms all across US. Socialist dingbats won’t allow themselves the opportunity of finding out first-hand. Better still, stay the “f” at home, we don’t need a bad reputation down there.

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              #46
              The thread is about equalization.

              Back on to the subject at hand.

              "The equalization payouts are based on a formula that was conceived by the former federal Conservative cabinet, of which Mr. Kenney was a member. So he’s angry about a disbursement blueprint that he approved."

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                #47
                Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
                You should go and see for yourself. I know you have this pre-conceived notion that health care is outrageous in US, but we have tried their system and both dental and medical treatments that we bought were way cheaper than here. Canadians are being fleeced and they think they are privileged.

                As for happy people, we’ve travelled and stayed for long periods in US, noticed hundreds of thousands of Canadians love being there and are welcomed with open arms all across US. Socialist dingbats won’t allow themselves the opportunity of finding out first-hand. Better still, stay the “f” at home, we don’t need a bad reputation down there.
                About 44 million people in the USA have no health insurance, and another 38 million have inadequate health insurance. This means that nearly one-third of Americans face each day without the security of knowing that, if and when they need it, medical care is available to them and their families.

                according to the Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF), more than a quarter of U.S. adults struggle to pay their medical bills. This includes folks who have insurance, whether independently or through an employer. In fact, medical debt is the No. 1 source of personal bankruptcy filings in the U.S., and in 2014, an estimated 40% of Americans racked up debt resulting from a medical issue.

                Now it's not shocking to learn that countless Americans struggle with medical debt, but what is surprising is the extent to which insured individuals have trouble keeping up. Last year, TheNew York Times reported that 20% of Americans under 65 with health insurance had trouble paying their medical bills over the past year. Of those, 63% claim to have used up all or most of their savings to tackle their healthcare expenses, while 42% took on an extra job to cover their costs.

                Unfortunately, having health insurance in no way guarantees that you won't fall victim to medical debt. But if you take steps to build an emergency fund, you'll be better protected in the face of an unanticipated bill.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                  The thread is about equalization.

                  Back on to the subject at hand.

                  "The equalization payouts are based on a formula that was conceived by the former federal Conservative cabinet, of which Mr. Kenney was a member. So he’s angry about a disbursement blueprint that he approved."
                  Equalization certainly existed for many decades before the federal Conservative's modified the formula. I think the biggest problem is the hydro power in Quebec is way under valued in the equalization formula. Newfoundland certainly isn't an economic powerhouse at present in fact just the opposite but they recieve no equalization. Getting back to Kenney, I think that Harper went as far as he could when he rejigged the formula, no matter what federal party you are from you are always conscious of the number of potential seats in Quebec.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                    About 44 million people in the USA have no health insurance, and another 38 million have inadequate health insurance. This means that nearly one-third of Americans face each day without the security of knowing that, if and when they need it, medical care is available to them and their families.
                    And 100% of Canadians have no access to timely health care, where healthcare services are rationed through waiting lists.

                    You socialists always bring up the universal health care issue in your anti-American tirades, but it never occurs to you that paying for universal health care requires a strong economy to create the tax base to pay for it all. As you promote taxing and regulating businesses out of existence, and they leave the country en masse along with the jobs and taxes they create, who do you think will be funding universal health care? Instead of punishing the productive members of society at every opportunity, why not encourage them, and use the additional revenue to fund all of your socialist wet dreams? Otherwise we end up like all the other socialist utopia's. Do you know how well Venezuala's and Cuba's healthcare systems are functioning with no revenue to fund them?

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                      #50
                      The US medical system is far superior to ours even if it doesn't have universal access. All the research, new drug development and advanced medical procedures are down there along with our best and brightest medical minds.

                      We take their breakthroughs and drugs and socialize them, give access to all and dilute the service so everyone gets a middling system that is both over run and less effective. Go stand at the emergency room door and see for yourself. Watch the druggies, drunks and people with sniffles sitting in there. There shouldn't even be a single chair to sit down on in an emergency room.
                      Last edited by jazz; Dec 12, 2018, 09:48.

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