Millions of acres

[farmaholic]

.....with our youth as collateral damage? A generation of potential young farmers can't compete!!!

Back to serfdom?

[MBgrower]

we are quickly becoming as uneconomical as the US Midwest farmer without govt support. I think lots of 45-55 year olds are going to tell the kids to dont bother, keep your 9-5 job, it makes more sense to sell out at this point.

[bucket]

Well...what the **** you guys????

They are destroying the lungs of the planet down in south america to grow more food for a hungry world....


You have to be part of it....The WCWGA says you are selfish if you don't grow more with the help of of a seed tax....people are starving...

People have always been starving and until political leaders want to solve the problem it will stay that way....


You have to want to keep up producing more.....DON'T you???

I sure do....here comes 2019....full throttle men.....

[Klause]

Trenes Argentinas

And all their new grain cars.

https://youtu.be/BFUel-Px7Y8

https://youtu.be/IqfLOF5gIyU

And all the new airports.

https://youtu.be/Bssj-33Nk0I

https://youtu.be/13ULDSf7XCk

3 years of normalized government.


Imagine what they can do in 20 if they stay on this path.

[jazz]

Well...what the **** you guys????

They are destroying the lungs of the planet down in south america to grow more food for a hungry world....

I don't think its really rain forest there but still vegetation to be cleared.

I think Russia is the example when you put a little money into a depressed country you can make serious production gains. They were never really a competitor in the world for a century, now look at them with a bit of capital behind them the run off some big HRS crops now and are thrilled to get $3 for it. We cant sell it profitably until its double that. New land coming on line in other parts of the world will be the same.

[Klause]

Brazil has plains and rainforests...

The land being cleared in Argentina isn't... Very little rain Forrest. It's semi arrid plains huge, thinly populated quebracho trees with a bunch of shrubbery in between.

[bucket]

Brazil has plains and rainforests...

The land being cleared in Argentina isn't... Very little rain Forrest. It's semi arrid plains huge, thinly populated quebracho trees with a bunch of shrubbery in between.

And in few years they will be saying native prairie lands are gone...

Just like Canada ..they wonder where the native prairie went and all of a sudden its a big deal there is only a little left and it serves some purpose...

That and in steep hills its only good for hunting and cows...

[farmaholic]

What I noticed in one of Klause's links.

The backdrop doesn't look very affluent in the first video and WTF is with the "GreyHound" logo on the railcars? So GreyHound pulls out of people bus transportation in Canada and invests in Argentina rail transportation? If that is actually the same company logo?

[jazz]

I don't always agree with klause but he is right that if Canadian ag doesn't change, we are dead.

And we have to be the ones to change it, our govt or farm groups wont. Big input high production, low prices wont work anymore. The oil patch found that out the hard way.

[Marusko]

We are in for a world of hurt it seems. I've been itching to buy land for several years now, haven't been able to pick anything up, maybe it's a blessing in disguise. Between this and the other thread about drought tolerant wheat, all the talk about FSU agronomy catching up, land breaking in FSU and SA, China coming into its own and making massive investment in Africa... Will we be seeing 4$ wheat again? Just because there's so much more production? Maybe I should be buying cows or goats instead just to have a backup plan if all crops lose money.

South America is a big area, I assume it's a mix of climate zones and not all of these new acres would be wheat producing land?

farmaholic, in my area it is the farmers who are driving land prices - up to 7500'ac - the investors are buying the marginal land that sits on the market for a while.

Klause I know you have ties down there, are you thinking of moving there to try your luck in a more ag-friendly country?

Maybe what we need is a crop that can be produced into a plant-based plastic. Replace oil-based plastics with a 'renewable' source. That would tie up a few acres. Can oilseeds be refined into hard plastic?

[Klause]

What I noticed in one of Klause's links.

The backdrop doesn't look very affluent in the first video and WTF is with the "GreyHound" logo on the railcars? So GreyHound pulls out of people bus transportation in Canada and invests in Argentina rail transportation? If that is actually the same company logo?

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No.


Trenes Argentinos Cargas' has a similar logo but I think it's a cheetah. Not the same company, no affiliation with Greyhound.


More information (rail network: https://www.bcyl.com.ar/red https://www.bcyl.com.ar/red )
Tariffs: https://www.bcyl.com.ar/tarifarios https://www.bcyl.com.ar/tarifarios
Fleet: https://www.bcyl.com.ar/flota https://www.bcyl.com.ar/flota

[Klause]

This map is telling.


Argentina has a significant logistical advantage in their geography, just by how far inland their port and river system goes, just look at where Porto Barranqueras is in relation to tidewater.

It's why it's so very critical we maintain and expand our rail network and pipeline network. We don't have navigable rivers, so we need to build infrastructure to do the work of water ways.



Full image: https://www.bcyl.com.ar/images/mapas/MapaBasesLogisticas.jpg https://www.bcyl.com.ar/images/mapas/MapaBasesLogisticas.jpg