Millions of acres

[farmaholic]

If there's no hope for Ag in Western Canada, explain the current land prices. But I still say average producers aren't driving the land prices as much as non-farming investors, but they're caught up in the frenzy(lead, follow or get out of the way). Then there are some "farm shell companies", that look like individual farms but you know damn well then couldn't be doing what they're doing with their own equity and capital.

How does this end for Canada with new competition; FSU, ARGY, untapped African potential, and land prices continue to escalate to levels PAST the point of making sense?

If you can rent 475K land out for $100/ac, that's 3.3% return...with big appreciation in all likelihood already taken out of the equation(it's already happened). AND with potential downside risk at these levels.

....lead, follow or get out of the way!

[SASKFARMER3]

Just looking at land sales it seems the farm company isn't the owner of the land but some other farm company. So the farm rents from the other for 100 an acre but like others have said what is the final outcome.

I know lots who are in the ages from 45 to 60 who are considering saying they are done. Just burnt out or sick of the game or tired of working for the chem and fert companies. Yet the new group of land investor farmers seems to be able to pay huge rents and keep everyone happy with big machinery and lots of employees etc.

I for one don't care but it just curious to me why?

Or is it like the guy who wins lotto max and says he is going to go farming.

For a few years pisses away millions on a farm and then one day his accountant or investors or banker say the nice game you really showed them but I think you should cut your losses and get out before you have nothing left.

Or is this just a plan to sell high priced land to another high paying first nations group or HUTTS.

I still think just follow the money.

[farmaholic]

.....with our youth as collateral damage? A generation of potential young farmers can't compete!!!

Back to serfdom?

[MBgrower]

we are quickly becoming as uneconomical as the US Midwest farmer without govt support. I think lots of 45-55 year olds are going to tell the kids to dont bother, keep your 9-5 job, it makes more sense to sell out at this point.

[bucket]

Well...what the **** you guys????

They are destroying the lungs of the planet down in south america to grow more food for a hungry world....


You have to be part of it....The WCWGA says you are selfish if you don't grow more with the help of of a seed tax....people are starving...

People have always been starving and until political leaders want to solve the problem it will stay that way....


You have to want to keep up producing more.....DON'T you???

I sure do....here comes 2019....full throttle men.....

[Klause]

Trenes Argentinas

And all their new grain cars.

https://youtu.be/BFUel-Px7Y8

https://youtu.be/IqfLOF5gIyU

And all the new airports.

https://youtu.be/Bssj-33Nk0I

https://youtu.be/13ULDSf7XCk

3 years of normalized government.


Imagine what they can do in 20 if they stay on this path.

[jazz]

Well...what the **** you guys????

They are destroying the lungs of the planet down in south america to grow more food for a hungry world....

I don't think its really rain forest there but still vegetation to be cleared.

I think Russia is the example when you put a little money into a depressed country you can make serious production gains. They were never really a competitor in the world for a century, now look at them with a bit of capital behind them the run off some big HRS crops now and are thrilled to get $3 for it. We cant sell it profitably until its double that. New land coming on line in other parts of the world will be the same.

[Klause]

Brazil has plains and rainforests...

The land being cleared in Argentina isn't... Very little rain Forrest. It's semi arrid plains huge, thinly populated quebracho trees with a bunch of shrubbery in between.

[bucket]

Brazil has plains and rainforests...

The land being cleared in Argentina isn't... Very little rain Forrest. It's semi arrid plains huge, thinly populated quebracho trees with a bunch of shrubbery in between.

And in few years they will be saying native prairie lands are gone...

Just like Canada ..they wonder where the native prairie went and all of a sudden its a big deal there is only a little left and it serves some purpose...

That and in steep hills its only good for hunting and cows...

[farmaholic]

What I noticed in one of Klause's links.

The backdrop doesn't look very affluent in the first video and WTF is with the "GreyHound" logo on the railcars? So GreyHound pulls out of people bus transportation in Canada and invests in Argentina rail transportation? If that is actually the same company logo?