Millions of acres

[pourfarmer]

I am part of a technology group that focuses on affordable RTK solutions, survey equipment and mapping. While the technology is amazing and I could write paragraphs about it, what I find real amazing is the amount of private and public surveying being done in South America. There are millions of acres being surveyed into typical grid formation for agriculture use. After the survey is completed, a crew will roll in and immediately begin clearing. They obviously lack infrastructure, but its only a matter of time before these acres come 'online' as competition for NA production.

The scale at which the land is being cleared down there is incredible! Imagine what how quickly our environment could've changed if people showed up with D10's, 450HP tractors instead of oxen and 1 furrow breaking plows.

[Hopalong]

Sort of goes against the message from some that we should limit or reduce production.

[pourfarmer]

Sort of goes against the message from some that we should limit or reduce production.

Grow and sell as much as you can in 2019, 2020 will be 'whole new world' IMO!

[SASKFARMER3]

We will slowly be replaced by South America.

Clearing and leveling and water drainage etc all taking place by farmers and then throw in China building ports and railroads and highways.

Canada we worry about what gender is doing construction projects and how hot to work and hate your neighbour as soon as the track hoe or sc****r comes out.

We’re fools who will be replaced.

Watch.

But we’ll study it to death 💀

[jazz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udrDQHqnmYY assume this is what is going on....might be replacing Brazil

[seldomseen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udrDQHqnmYY assume this is what is going on....might be replacing Brazil

Half way along on that video he starts talking about Argentina and you would think he was talking about Canada.

[pourfarmer]

We will slowly be replaced by South America.

Clearing and leveling and water drainage etc all taking place by farmers and then throw in China building ports and railroads and highways.

Canada we worry about what gender is doing construction projects and how hot to work and hate your neighbour as soon as the track hoe or sc****r comes out.

We’re fools who will be replaced.

Watch.

But we’ll study it to death 💀

There are 0 rules in place for clearning and drainage.

From what I see, 9 times out of 10 the farmer (or cooperative) funds or builds the access road as well. So they setup drainage canals and ditches how they see fit. They are working together with neighbours, just like what was done in Canada when it was settled. They seem extremely industrious, and have up to date equipment and technology.

[jazz]

I said this before. Ag is the patch 5 years from now. Rapidly increasing costs, regulations, low commodity prices. hard to get to port, transportation issues, poor infrastructure, geographic obstacles, environmental whackos etc.

We better start getting our cost structure in line or we will be done too.

[makar]

In 1939 my grandfather had to decide wether to come here or go to argentina, i am starting to think he got on the wrong boat.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

In 1939 my grandfather had to decide wether to come here or go to argentina, i am starting to think he got on the wrong boat.

My dad seriously considered it before coming back to the family farm, probably early 70's. Not sure how he came to the idea, I got the impression there was some type of recruiting going on? The unstable political situation scared him off.

[farmaholic]

If there's no hope for Ag in Western Canada, explain the current land prices. But I still say average producers aren't driving the land prices as much as non-farming investors, but they're caught up in the frenzy(lead, follow or get out of the way). Then there are some "farm shell companies", that look like individual farms but you know damn well then couldn't be doing what they're doing with their own equity and capital.

How does this end for Canada with new competition; FSU, ARGY, untapped African potential, and land prices continue to escalate to levels PAST the point of making sense?

If you can rent 475K land out for $100/ac, that's 3.3% return...with big appreciation in all likelihood already taken out of the equation(it's already happened). AND with potential downside risk at these levels.

....lead, follow or get out of the way!

[SASKFARMER3]

Just looking at land sales it seems the farm company isn't the owner of the land but some other farm company. So the farm rents from the other for 100 an acre but like others have said what is the final outcome.

I know lots who are in the ages from 45 to 60 who are considering saying they are done. Just burnt out or sick of the game or tired of working for the chem and fert companies. Yet the new group of land investor farmers seems to be able to pay huge rents and keep everyone happy with big machinery and lots of employees etc.

I for one don't care but it just curious to me why?

Or is it like the guy who wins lotto max and says he is going to go farming.

For a few years pisses away millions on a farm and then one day his accountant or investors or banker say the nice game you really showed them but I think you should cut your losses and get out before you have nothing left.

Or is this just a plan to sell high priced land to another high paying first nations group or HUTTS.

I still think just follow the money.

[farmaholic]

.....with our youth as collateral damage? A generation of potential young farmers can't compete!!!

Back to serfdom?

[MBgrower]

we are quickly becoming as uneconomical as the US Midwest farmer without govt support. I think lots of 45-55 year olds are going to tell the kids to dont bother, keep your 9-5 job, it makes more sense to sell out at this point.

[bucket]

Well...what the **** you guys????

They are destroying the lungs of the planet down in south america to grow more food for a hungry world....


You have to be part of it....The WCWGA says you are selfish if you don't grow more with the help of of a seed tax....people are starving...

People have always been starving and until political leaders want to solve the problem it will stay that way....


You have to want to keep up producing more.....DON'T you???

I sure do....here comes 2019....full throttle men.....