Poor atitude on Agriville

[jamesb]

I like to think of myself as positive....My kid wants to farm even with all the challenges....But if you want to do the sunshine and lollipop crap its a disservice to those that want to farm...

No, not sunshine and lollipop.
We can prepare our kids to be better managers than we were at their age. If I knew half of what I do now back in the early 80's about being a better marketer, knowing cost of production, etc, etc I would be way further ahead today. I want to make sure the boys have that training. If they are going to farm with the kind of dollars we have to deal with now they to be better prepared.
One thing that always sticks in my mind is a guy that I know that was always negative about farming, always bitching and complaining. When his boys got finished high school the last thing they wanted to do was farm. The guy was very sad about this but couldn't see that attitude was all the kids ever saw. I realize that today farming has been pretty good for the last 10 years and most kids have never seen bad. We need to prepare them for this. I do think there is going to be some real wrecks show up soon. Things seem to happen in the US before we see it and its starting down there.
My take away is that when things look the poorest , that's when the best opportunity's come around.

[grassfarmer]

Where I find the most negativity on Agriville aren't the direct farm issues - it's the "Canada is finished", "agriculture in Canada is finished" posts just because a party other than the posters has the majority in Parliament. I've said before that as far as my life and farm business is concerned there has been no noticeable difference since the PCs were replaced with Liberals. Trade issues are nothing new in an exporting country - they come and go. Farmers trying to sc**** a living is about as old as time - certainly wasn't all roses under the PCs and it isn't now either. Equally I don't see the melt down of the country some talk about.

[Guest]

Check out this post and entire thread in the Crop Production section.

RedLentil
DEC 7, 2018 | 00:46 1 We have been putting some serious thought into this, along with a few other neighbor, that maby saying piss on the current model and trying something different might be the way to go.

The organic industry seems to be chugging along just fine with no signs of slowing down.
With input cost rising with no signs of slowing down, conventional commodity prices not so great along with everything else that help make margins razor thin it seems silly to keep the status quo when their may be something better.
The numbers seem to work.

All the organic farmers I know seem happy, not that stressed and excited about the future.

[jamesb]

James, it sounds like it was an interesting conference.

I wouldn’t have been anxious to dish out big greenbacks just to get the warm and fuzzy feeling. I know full well what agriculture is up against and sticking my head in the sand won’t fix anything.

Do you think something was accomplished at the conference? If so - what changes/ advances were on the table?

Please enlighten us.

Right now I think the FBN will help me with Chem price discovery. I haven't bought from them but its a good place to see what prices are out there to compare. I uploaded a bunch of my invoices the other day and saw some products that others paid way less on. I will be better prepared next year.
The other thing I saw great value is that the yield data. We all uploaded yield monitor numbers and now see area canola yields on different soil types . So I am not looking at yields for one area but down to the soil types. I don't feel that I can trust individual company seed plot data so this should be unbias.
We did get pretty good imagery emailed during the crop year. At this point for me its the same as one guy at our table said at the conference " Its nice to look at but we are not making any decisions off of imagery yet, still have to get into the field and look"

[jazz]

I am half expecting james to break out and start singing high hopes or something.

It pays to be realistic and to run a business, any business, you need a proper business friendly regime. Your positive attitude wont over come those kids of obstacles. When the govt turns against your business, or ignores it or puts in hostile policies, sunny ways wont cut it. You can prepare all you want, wont make a difference.

[Braveheart]

Your words and thoughts become your reality. It's the Law of Attraction. It's real and it's been around forever. Even the Bible "reap what you sow" stuff. If you say, "it's grim", then for you it will be grim.

[hobbyfrmr]

Check out this post and entire thread in the Crop Production section.

RedLentil
DEC 7, 2018 | 00:46 1 We have been putting some serious thought into this, along with a few other neighbor, that maby saying piss on the current model and trying something different might be the way to go.

The organic industry seems to be chugging along just fine with no signs of slowing down.
With input cost rising with no signs of slowing down, conventional commodity prices not so great along with everything else that help make margins razor thin it seems silly to keep the status quo when their may be something better.
The numbers seem to work.

All the organic farmers I know seem happy, not that stressed and excited about the future.

Ha ha!!. You think farming multiple passes with rudimentary tractors ready to fail catastrophically, dragging around small, primitive, erosion inducing tillage tools to grow half a crop that will need to go through a grain cleaner will make any self respecting farmer happy. Sunny organic ways?
Trying to cash flow a respectable line of machinery through 3 years of transition to organic is going to be the biggest challenge.
If you are that close to being broke, rent your land out and get a job with decent benefits and top up the pension contributions.

[Guest]

always enjoy your posts hobby !
I'll bet you are very good at what you do

[bucket]

always enjoy your posts hobby !
I'll bet you are very good at what you do

He is....his sarcastic posts are for those that don't get his sense of humor. ....and protecting his market so others don't try it....

He is genius....

[hobbyfrmr]

He is....his sarcastic posts are for those that don't get his sense of humor. ....and protecting his market so others don't try it....

He is genius....

Gainful employment with strong benefits and maxing out pension contributions is not bad advice for the future. Or else buy gold and a couple of guns.

[farmaholic]

Gainful employment with strong benefits and maxing out pension contributions is not bad advice for the future. Or else buy gold and a couple of guns.

Why? If you're poor you'll be served porridge out of the same pot in the old folks home as the guy who squirrelled away a pile of cash.

Roll into your grave broke! When you die, make the government bury you!

Still waiting for those GPS co-ordinates Hobby, the AngryVille crop inspectors and rant verifiers want to pay you a visit. (hide the sprayer at the neighbors)

[Taiga]

https://www.producer.com/2018/03/40000-acre-farm-goes-organic/

Anyone know how this guy is making out with his 40,000ac organic venture? Are you on here Mr Heide? I am genuinely curious, not being snide.

[Taiga]

https://www.producer.com/2018/03/40000-acre-farm-goes-organic/

Anyone know how this guy is making out with his 40,000ac organic venture? Are you on here Mr Heide? I am genuinely curious, not being snide.

Follow up story from Sept:

https://globalnews.ca/news/4447635/sask-farmer-converts-40000-acres-into-canadas-largest-organic-farm/

[bucket]

https://www.producer.com/2018/03/40000-acre-farm-goes-organic/

Anyone know how this guy is making out with his 40,000ac organic venture? Are you on here Mr Heide? I am genuinely curious, not being snide.

He was being backstopped by Andejelic ...one of the largest landowners in Canada....he is just the manager...its an investor farm....

[Taiga]

He was being backstopped by Andejelic ...one of the largest landowners in Canada....he is just the manager...its an investor farm....

Yes I read that, will be interesting to see it play out.