Should we join the rallies with equipment.....

[the big wheel]

The big wheel


Is it just me or do you find it odd that while thousands are out of work....federated makes a billion plus dollars and leaves the price of gas where it is with 20 dollar a barrel oil feeding their upgrader refinery complex...

Yes sure is.
Our ag groups should be all over this. Pointing out what we're paying for farm fuel and how the price of all our parts etc is affected by these stupid pump prices.
Like I said let's support the oil industry tie in a better transportation of our grain as a package deal and all of us get into this.

[chuckChuck]

At least with FCL the profit is going back to communities all across Western Canada to be paid out to members and reinvested helping the economy and keeping people employed.

[bucket]

Yes sure is.
Our ag groups should be all over this. Pointing out what we're paying for farm fuel and how the price of all our parts etc is affected by these stupid pump prices.
Like I said let's support the oil industry tie in a better transportation of our grain as a package deal and all of us get into this.

Federated overcharges for everything at the local then gives a little back....But now they will get to keep the price of fuel high because of their carbon tax and now we have to pay ours as well...Gas will probably be back to 1.15 after January 1, 2019.....carbon tax and GST on the carbon tax....plus the price of oil is up a little..

Pricing some bins the other day they are $5000 over the ad on kijiji...and all they say is guys are looking at the coop prices....I told him he is retarded...But then I also know of 12 - 10000 bushel bins sold within 5 miles of the local coop that came from others.....

[the big wheel]

Yep prices for things never go down when fuel rises and goes done that's why spikes in fuel are so detrimental in the long run. Grain haulers still charging a. Surcharge. I don't blame them because of their other costs have gone up but where is our surcharge to that surcharge? Just being negative but fk they are protesting a job we re paying for a lifetime.

[grassfarmer]

Canada travels homeless, begging and layoffs all over. Sad people

Yea we’re booming.

The facts would suggest otherwise - Canadian unemployment figures are at 40+ year lows.
The begging I agree is bad - we have to do something to address this Corporate begging.

And what does something going on mile under your farm hurt you ?

Like this: http://thetyee.ca/News/2016/03/30/Stanford-Study-Fracking-Groundwater/ http://https://thetyee.ca/News/2016/03/30/Stanford-Study-Fracking-Groundwater/

[Guest]

that is a concern grass
saw it first hand in Sussex NB . when sask potash was doing drilling there for some maintenance of the potash mine , they buggered all the drinking water in a little community .they had been hauling water for years to drink last time I was there
I think most of the frac wells here are deep enough it shouldn't ever happen
had an interesting thing happen when I first started drilling years ago . we had been in field drilling around Cecil lake BC for two years , there was never any formation pressure to worry about . went back a couple years later after they had started water injection into the formations . long story short , took a ***** of a kick that no one was expecting . turned into a blowout . found out esso hadn't even shut water injection pumps off , let alone tell us to expect new pressures in an old formation!

[grassfarmer]

Blew this one up too - great to know these kind of things can't happen due to tight regulations LOL.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/fracking-to-blame-for-well-blowout-near-innisfail-1.1191497 http://https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/fracking-to-blame-for-well-blowout-near-innisfail-1.1191497

[beaverdam]

"when they came for me, there was no one left to speak for me"

Amazing, this fool posting here! Thinking cause because he grows grass that he'll be "protected" from the wackoes, nutbags and liberals. The left wants miles and miles of grass, but they sure as hell don't want any animals on it(atleast not domesticated ones)

When in truth, his livelihood is much higher up the list of industries, in which the left are gunning to shut down completely.

Top of list is the petroleum industry, which I should note is a natural, organic product, which is needed to produce a wide variety of material goods, beyond being an energy source.

But only a step or two below petroleum, is MEAT !
They are coming for MEAT, and they're coming fast and hard. They are going to be shutting down all livestock and related industries, and they'll be doing it on the premise, that we're too evolved to have livestock confined, and it's too inhumane, and we're not savages any more, humanity is too refined, and we can now manufacture MEAT, which doesn't have any animal parts in it. That's where we're going and that's where the left is taking us.

Currently there is a swing to the right in global politics,,,but the pendulum will and always seems to swing back, and when the left grasps power back globally in 10-15 years, the attack on MEAT will be full on. That's when livestock agriculture will come to and end. I'd say 15-20 years from now.

[burnt]

"when they came for me, there was no one left to speak for me"

Amazing, this fool posting here! Thinking cause because he grows grass that he'll be "protected" from the wackoes, nutbags and liberals. The left wants miles and miles of grass, but they sure as hell don't want any animals on it(atleast not domesticated ones)

When in truth, his livelihood is much higher up the list of industries, in which the left are gunning to shut down completely.

Top of list is the petroleum industry, which I should note is a natural, organic product, which is needed to produce a wide variety of material goods, beyond being an energy source.

But only a step or two below petroleum, is MEAT !
They are coming for MEAT, and they're coming fast and hard. They are going to be shutting down all livestock and related industries, and they'll be doing it on the premise, that we're too evolved to have livestock confined, and it's too inhumane, and we're not savages any more, humanity is too refined, and we can now manufacture MEAT, which doesn't have any animal parts in it. That's where we're going and that's where the left is taking us.

Currently there is a swing to the right in global politics,,,but the pendulum will and always seems to swing back, and when the left grasps power back globally in 10-15 years, the attack on MEAT will be full on. That's when livestock agriculture will come to and end. I'd say 15-20 years from now.

He couldn't care less what happens to the meat industry in 10-15 years because he likely won't be around anymore to feel the effects of the ideology he espouses.

[Hamloc]

So it's the "enviros" gutting the oil industry now Hamloc? are you sure about that? - the previous posters were blaming it on the Liberal Government despite the fact the biggest drop in recent years came in the last year and a half of the Harper Government. How about considering it might just be market forces?

You are certainly correct that the oil price drop in 2015 resulted in a lot of unemployed Albertan's. The environmentalists though have certainly done all they can to landlocked Alberta oil. Look at the "Great Bear Rain Forest" on the west coast that Trudeau uses as justification for bill C-48. This was name was created by Tzeporah Berman and her fellow Greenpeace activists sitting around a table drinking wine in a San Francisco restaurant in the early 90's(according to her 2011 memoir). This name has nothing to do with Indigenous groups in the area. The environmentalists also figured out how to use Indigenous land rights to stop pipeline construction in court and amassed the money to continue the legal battles for the foreseeable future.

Now for Justin Trudeau. Everybody argues that he is in favor of pipeline construction because he bought the existing Trans Mountain pipeline. It was certainly nothing but a political decision, Kinder Morgan was done with the pipeline and Canada's never ending approval process. But oil companies continue to invest their money in jurisdictions outside of Canada because there appears to be no end to the pipeline juggernaut. And Trudeau continues to push bill C-69 which almost all oil and mining companies believe will be the end of future infrastructure developement. Many of the jobs in the oil industry involve exploration and building new infrastructure, at present the future does not look bright for the growth of production in Canada because you can't get the product to market. Trudeau's no more pipelines bill does not give them hope!

One last thought, one common theme I have run into lately is the dislike of animal agriculture in the climate change movement. I read can't remember where the statement that animal agriculture is responsible for almost half the GHG emissions in the world. This is certainly wrong but there is no doubt their goal is to replace our farm grown meat with meat created in the lab.

The original question was should farmers join the convoy's? I say YES!

[oneoff]

You see that little f'er that speaks on behalf of A&W for their new "beef" burgers.

A couple of years (months) ago he was convincing customers that there were no hormones in that beef patty. Now the message is that its all plant based.

And guess what. The next step is that there are no glyohosate/gluten/man made poisons in the all veggie "hamburger".

So now the livestock industry can't even complain about the former good aura of ham or beef or butter that some corporation feels free to masquerade as made up with their manufactured concoction.

Oh the hypocrisy.

[littledoggie]

"when they came for me, there was no one left to speak for me"

Amazing, this fool posting here! Thinking cause because he grows grass that he'll be "protected" from the wackoes, nutbags and liberals. The left wants miles and miles of grass, but they sure as hell don't want any animals on it(atleast not domesticated ones)

When in truth, his livelihood is much higher up the list of industries, in which the left are gunning to shut down completely.

Top of list is the petroleum industry, which I should note is a natural, organic product, which is needed to produce a wide variety of material goods, beyond being an energy source.

But only a step or two below petroleum, is MEAT !
They are coming for MEAT, and they're coming fast and hard. They are going to be shutting down all livestock and related industries, and they'll be doing it on the premise, that we're too evolved to have livestock confined, and it's too inhumane, and we're not savages any more, humanity is too refined, and we can now manufacture MEAT, which doesn't have any animal parts in it. That's where we're going and that's where the left is taking us.

Currently there is a swing to the right in global politics,,,but the pendulum will and always seems to swing back, and when the left grasps power back globally in 10-15 years, the attack on MEAT will be full on. That's when livestock agriculture will come to and end. I'd say 15-20 years from now.

15-20 years. Good, that should give enough time to see the health effects of vegan/vegetarianism.

[grassfarmer]

He couldn't care less what happens to the meat industry in 10-15 years because he likely won't be around anymore to feel the effects of the ideology he espouses.

On the contrary - I'm a 9th generation livestock farmer and it's very important to me what happens in the future and for generations to come. That's why I take a proactive role in addressing climate change and don't support dumb shit like fracking or otherwise destroying the environment.

[oneoff]

I'm sure that little A&W f'er took note of grass's last post.

And equally sure that the methane belched from every ruminant is in the crosshairs of exactly the same crowd that would do away with the oil and gas industry. Nothing worse than shooting yourself in the foot. But go ahead with appeasement route and sacrifice what is in farmer's best interest. Just don't attempt to speak for those who see the situation in a different light.

Some people must have to learn everything by personally making the same mistakes (over and over).

[fjlip]

If you EXHALE YOU are adding CO2, dam all you earth killing humans! Hold your breath or you are NOT ADDRESSING any climate change BS at all