Should we join the rallies with equipment.....

[grassfarmer]

Blew this one up too - great to know these kind of things can't happen due to tight regulations LOL.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/fracking-to-blame-for-well-blowout-near-innisfail-1.1191497 http://https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/fracking-to-blame-for-well-blowout-near-innisfail-1.1191497

[beaverdam]

"when they came for me, there was no one left to speak for me"

Amazing, this fool posting here! Thinking cause because he grows grass that he'll be "protected" from the wackoes, nutbags and liberals. The left wants miles and miles of grass, but they sure as hell don't want any animals on it(atleast not domesticated ones)

When in truth, his livelihood is much higher up the list of industries, in which the left are gunning to shut down completely.

Top of list is the petroleum industry, which I should note is a natural, organic product, which is needed to produce a wide variety of material goods, beyond being an energy source.

But only a step or two below petroleum, is MEAT !
They are coming for MEAT, and they're coming fast and hard. They are going to be shutting down all livestock and related industries, and they'll be doing it on the premise, that we're too evolved to have livestock confined, and it's too inhumane, and we're not savages any more, humanity is too refined, and we can now manufacture MEAT, which doesn't have any animal parts in it. That's where we're going and that's where the left is taking us.

Currently there is a swing to the right in global politics,,,but the pendulum will and always seems to swing back, and when the left grasps power back globally in 10-15 years, the attack on MEAT will be full on. That's when livestock agriculture will come to and end. I'd say 15-20 years from now.

[burnt]

"when they came for me, there was no one left to speak for me"

Amazing, this fool posting here! Thinking cause because he grows grass that he'll be "protected" from the wackoes, nutbags and liberals. The left wants miles and miles of grass, but they sure as hell don't want any animals on it(atleast not domesticated ones)

When in truth, his livelihood is much higher up the list of industries, in which the left are gunning to shut down completely.

Top of list is the petroleum industry, which I should note is a natural, organic product, which is needed to produce a wide variety of material goods, beyond being an energy source.

But only a step or two below petroleum, is MEAT !
They are coming for MEAT, and they're coming fast and hard. They are going to be shutting down all livestock and related industries, and they'll be doing it on the premise, that we're too evolved to have livestock confined, and it's too inhumane, and we're not savages any more, humanity is too refined, and we can now manufacture MEAT, which doesn't have any animal parts in it. That's where we're going and that's where the left is taking us.

Currently there is a swing to the right in global politics,,,but the pendulum will and always seems to swing back, and when the left grasps power back globally in 10-15 years, the attack on MEAT will be full on. That's when livestock agriculture will come to and end. I'd say 15-20 years from now.

He couldn't care less what happens to the meat industry in 10-15 years because he likely won't be around anymore to feel the effects of the ideology he espouses.

[Hamloc]

So it's the "enviros" gutting the oil industry now Hamloc? are you sure about that? - the previous posters were blaming it on the Liberal Government despite the fact the biggest drop in recent years came in the last year and a half of the Harper Government. How about considering it might just be market forces?

You are certainly correct that the oil price drop in 2015 resulted in a lot of unemployed Albertan's. The environmentalists though have certainly done all they can to landlocked Alberta oil. Look at the "Great Bear Rain Forest" on the west coast that Trudeau uses as justification for bill C-48. This was name was created by Tzeporah Berman and her fellow Greenpeace activists sitting around a table drinking wine in a San Francisco restaurant in the early 90's(according to her 2011 memoir). This name has nothing to do with Indigenous groups in the area. The environmentalists also figured out how to use Indigenous land rights to stop pipeline construction in court and amassed the money to continue the legal battles for the foreseeable future.

Now for Justin Trudeau. Everybody argues that he is in favor of pipeline construction because he bought the existing Trans Mountain pipeline. It was certainly nothing but a political decision, Kinder Morgan was done with the pipeline and Canada's never ending approval process. But oil companies continue to invest their money in jurisdictions outside of Canada because there appears to be no end to the pipeline juggernaut. And Trudeau continues to push bill C-69 which almost all oil and mining companies believe will be the end of future infrastructure developement. Many of the jobs in the oil industry involve exploration and building new infrastructure, at present the future does not look bright for the growth of production in Canada because you can't get the product to market. Trudeau's no more pipelines bill does not give them hope!

One last thought, one common theme I have run into lately is the dislike of animal agriculture in the climate change movement. I read can't remember where the statement that animal agriculture is responsible for almost half the GHG emissions in the world. This is certainly wrong but there is no doubt their goal is to replace our farm grown meat with meat created in the lab.

The original question was should farmers join the convoy's? I say YES!

[oneoff]

You see that little f'er that speaks on behalf of A&W for their new "beef" burgers.

A couple of years (months) ago he was convincing customers that there were no hormones in that beef patty. Now the message is that its all plant based.

And guess what. The next step is that there are no glyohosate/gluten/man made poisons in the all veggie "hamburger".

So now the livestock industry can't even complain about the former good aura of ham or beef or butter that some corporation feels free to masquerade as made up with their manufactured concoction.

Oh the hypocrisy.

[littledoggie]

"when they came for me, there was no one left to speak for me"

Amazing, this fool posting here! Thinking cause because he grows grass that he'll be "protected" from the wackoes, nutbags and liberals. The left wants miles and miles of grass, but they sure as hell don't want any animals on it(atleast not domesticated ones)

When in truth, his livelihood is much higher up the list of industries, in which the left are gunning to shut down completely.

Top of list is the petroleum industry, which I should note is a natural, organic product, which is needed to produce a wide variety of material goods, beyond being an energy source.

But only a step or two below petroleum, is MEAT !
They are coming for MEAT, and they're coming fast and hard. They are going to be shutting down all livestock and related industries, and they'll be doing it on the premise, that we're too evolved to have livestock confined, and it's too inhumane, and we're not savages any more, humanity is too refined, and we can now manufacture MEAT, which doesn't have any animal parts in it. That's where we're going and that's where the left is taking us.

Currently there is a swing to the right in global politics,,,but the pendulum will and always seems to swing back, and when the left grasps power back globally in 10-15 years, the attack on MEAT will be full on. That's when livestock agriculture will come to and end. I'd say 15-20 years from now.

15-20 years. Good, that should give enough time to see the health effects of vegan/vegetarianism.

[grassfarmer]

He couldn't care less what happens to the meat industry in 10-15 years because he likely won't be around anymore to feel the effects of the ideology he espouses.

On the contrary - I'm a 9th generation livestock farmer and it's very important to me what happens in the future and for generations to come. That's why I take a proactive role in addressing climate change and don't support dumb shit like fracking or otherwise destroying the environment.

[oneoff]

I'm sure that little A&W f'er took note of grass's last post.

And equally sure that the methane belched from every ruminant is in the crosshairs of exactly the same crowd that would do away with the oil and gas industry. Nothing worse than shooting yourself in the foot. But go ahead with appeasement route and sacrifice what is in farmer's best interest. Just don't attempt to speak for those who see the situation in a different light.

Some people must have to learn everything by personally making the same mistakes (over and over).

[fjlip]

If you EXHALE YOU are adding CO2, dam all you earth killing humans! Hold your breath or you are NOT ADDRESSING any climate change BS at all

[malleefarmer]

Currently there is a swing to the right in global politics.......

In aust we had 83 to 96 left
96 2007 right
2007 to 2013 left
currently 2013 to 2018 right but polls suggesting the right will lose 24 seats and we will swing back left.

It actually quite uniform the periods of right and left govt here.

refrain from pointless idealogical political trash talk so just putting our figures up.

guess im a shag on a rock but seems to me grass is a "thinking" right wing voter or moderate and chuck chuck actually bit the same.

And grass heaven help UK if jeremy corbin ever gets in think you and i will both agree hmmm the old sex pistols classic "anarchy for the uk"

Have a family that corresponds with us from yorkshire dales has done for last oh 40yrs gone generational any way lucy born on farm with conservative bringing up politically i mean or tory think she lives and works in sheffield now shes in her early 30s and she mentioned in her xmas letter all the young up and comers and middle and lower class love corbyn.

Really think yellow vests in france are gonna have wide ranging effects personally not sure there doing any good.

World needs a reset button alas aint gonna happen

anyway enough politics

[grassfarmer]

Your friend must have been hanging out in Sheffield too long. (it's in the Peoples Republic of South Yorkshire lol) I don't think Corbyn will ever be elected. Even after all May has gone through with Brexit she'd still have a better chance of getting re-elected that Corbyn.

[malleefarmer]

Your friend must have been hanging out in Sheffield too long. (it's in the Peoples Republic of South Yorkshire lol) I don't think Corbyn will ever be elected. Even after all May has gone through with Brexit she'd still have a better chance of getting re-elected that Corbyn.

Personally i agree dont think he will get elected.
Said the same about trump.
And ps she wont vote for corbin just stating her circle of freinds i guess.

UK Sky news had the very topic of next ok election i think there line of thought was "it cant happen it cant happen but be end of programme if things happen in uk to detriment of tories maybe he can"

Talking left and right originally seems some scandanavian countries may swing right and reckon usa will swing back to dems/left.