Acreages/Land... Full Retard?

[Guest]

North American land is still generally priced low compared to European so there will always be incomers driving the price of land here up.

A recent sale in SW Scotland - 680 acres, essentially a livestock farm in an area that can grow grass and crops to feed livestock. Price was $5.39 million in Canadian money.

http:wallets-rps.co.uk/product/knocktim-valleyfield-north-cairn-farms/ http://http://wallets-rps.co.uk/product/knocktim-valleyfield-north-cairn-farms/

is it possible to make enough profit from a farm there to make the payments on a farm like this ?

[Guest]

Can you even buy lead shot?

yes , a lot cheaper . use for beavers

[furrowtickler]

North American land is still generally priced low compared to European so there will always be incomers driving the price of land here up.

A recent sale in SW Scotland - 680 acres, essentially a livestock farm in an area that can grow grass and crops to feed livestock. Price was $5.39 million in Canadian money.

http:wallets-rps.co.uk/product/knocktim-valleyfield-north-cairn-farms/ http://http://wallets-rps.co.uk/product/knocktim-valleyfield-north-cairn-farms/

Problem is , how the heck is it ever possible to make a dime with land values at that ??

[grassfarmer]

Problem is , how the heck is it ever possible to make a dime with land values at that ??

Same as here, just at different values. Income as a return on investment would be woeful, income plus land price appreciation keeps us at it.

[Taiga]

That’s the problem around here, lots of quarters for sale but they all have a home on them, so the price is , 2x / 3x / 4x more expensive than you want to pay when you just want the land. I would say the rural land you buy and build your hobby home on is one of the worst investments, they often sell for less than replacement value (cost of the home and yard I mean). From my experience anyway.

[Klause]

Same as here, just at different values. Income as a return on investment would be woeful, income plus land price appreciation keeps us at it.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/aug/29/uks-wealth-rises-as-land-values-soar-by-450bn-in-a-year https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/aug/29/uks-wealth-rises-as-land-values-soar-by-450bn-in-a-year

[jazz]

is it possible to make enough profit from a farm there to make the payments on a farm like this ?

Probably someone who sold their shack in London and got out before it becomes a shit hole.

[Klause]

The thing is Europe is over populated and has high land prices.. but also infrastructure... Subsidies... You name it.


Why did you move here? To get more land? Freedom? Find a hunnybunchy?

[jazz]

Why did you move here? To get more land? Freedom? Find a hunnybunchy?

The first world isn't agrarian any more and has turned its back on that way of life. 150 yrs ago anybody that immigrated wanted land of any sort. That doesn't happen anymore even in Europe. Its all probably older families, kids gone to the big city, no need to expand and ride it out in place.

[Klause]

The first world isn't agrarian any more and has turned its back on that way of life. 150 yrs ago anybody that immigrated wanted land of any sort. That doesn't happen anymore even in Europe. Its all probably older families, kids gone to the big city, no need to expand and ride it out in place.

We don't always agree. But we do on this.


Post industrialism is the last step before collapse.

[grassfarmer]

The first world isn't agrarian any more and has turned its back on that way of life. 150 yrs ago anybody that immigrated wanted land of any sort. That doesn't happen anymore even in Europe. Its all probably older families, kids gone to the big city, no need to expand and ride it out in place.

There are a lot more farmer's sons continuing the family business in Scotland than there are here. Lots of young guys needing land - most find a way to do it even with high land values, some choose to emigrate. Not sure how the Brexit deal will settle out but I expect it will trigger more farm immigration - and those that do are likely to have Canada at the top of their list. Relatively cheap land, a British connection and similar values.

[biglentil]

They cant take the home quarter BL. That's enshrined in the Canada lands act and as rock solid as any native treaty.



There is no wave of Europeans moving here. They love their social programs over there and would never move here and farm with their dick hanging out like we do. At least until immigration destroys that place for good.

Yes the Saskatchewan Farm Security Act im very familiar. Its a good read, yes there is bankruptcy protection but no protection from expropriation for greater good. If interest rates and commodity prices keep on the same path I assure you land prices will fall. In 1929 land prices fell 80% nearly overnight.