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    #11
    Food is fabricated soil fertility

    https://robbwolf.com/2011/05/06/the-illusion-of-nutrient-dense-food/

    http://www.bionutrient.org/site/news/nutrient-dense-crops

    This is one of the main reasons we will be getting rid of glyphosate.

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      #12
      https://detoxproject.org/glyphosate/glyphosate-chelating-agent/

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        #13
        Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
        The CFIA told me about 10 years ago that they don’t check imported fruit for chemical residues so I suspect they don’t test for minerals either. Just assuming.
        Spend all their ****ing time testing everything we grow and do instead

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          #14
          Austranada, can you explain this paradox. If the problem is mining the soil of nutrients, how is a system which places arbitrary restrictions on replacing nutrients (or at least makes it much more difficult and expensive) going to improve the situation?

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            #15
            Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
            Austranada, can you explain this paradox. If the problem is mining the soil of nutrients, how is a system which places arbitrary restrictions on replacing nutrients (or at least makes it much more difficult and expensive) going to improve the situation?
            Its glyphosate... Haven't you gotten the memo?

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              #16
              Originally posted by helmsdale View Post
              Its glyphosate... Haven't you gotten the memo?
              I got that memo, has been beating me across the head with it for months now, but he is also advocating organic, and I don't see how that solves the bigger problem of soil that is being mined.

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                #17
                Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                Austranada, can you explain this paradox. If the problem is mining the soil of nutrients, how is a system which places arbitrary restrictions on replacing nutrients (or at least makes it much more difficult and expensive) going to improve the situation?
                Congratulations you appear to have attained liminality. Keep searching but go easy on all the assumptions

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Austranada View Post
                  Congratulations you appear to have attained liminality. Keep searching but go easy on all the assumptions
                  Well, thank you, I just learned something useful today. I had to look up the definition of liminality. But, sorry, it didn't just occur, I've been frustrated by conventional agricultures unwillingness to pay any premium for doing the right thing, and organics insistence on paying a premium only if you do all the wrong things.

                  I told you before, if you want to market my products with a system in between the two that rewards sustainable practices, produces healthy products(provably, and distinguishably so), and is based on science not emotion, I am all in.

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                    #19
                    I don't understand why the government would not do a random nutritional analysis of the fruits and vegetables from 5 or 6 locations and brands across Canada every 8 or 10 years. I'm sure they have employees who would jump at the chance to get out from behind their desks.
                    Consumers would then have some idea if they were meeting their required daily nutritional needs. From the little bit of research I've done, some supplied by others on this site, it seems that the numbers have dropped by 20 to 70 percent depending on the vitamin or mineral tested. Maybe that's what the government and producers are concerned about, if consumers knew the actual numbers they would just say to hell with fruit and vegetables, much to the horror of Health Canada.

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                      #20
                      http://www.ecofarmingdaily.com/soil-restoration-5-core-principles/

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