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    #13
    Originally posted by Braveheart View Post
    There again, if you aren't a member why would you get a call back? If I was in their position I wouldn't waste my time.
    So why publish something looking for comments....sounds like they only want sheeple with the same opinion. ...

    I will repeat...they were looking for opinions. ...

    What you are saying is if I don't agree with their opinions ...**** off....right?

    But we are buddies on the carbon tax??????

    Pretty tough to engage in school girl tactics of the WCWGA .....

    Besides you are deflecting to the carbon tax and your arch enemies ....the NFU
    ....childish....
    Last edited by bucket; Jan 2, 2019, 21:20.

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      #14
      Originally posted by bucket View Post
      So why publish something looking for comments....sounds like they only want sheeple with the same opinion. ...

      I will repeat...they were looking for opinions. ...

      What you are saying is if I don't agree with their opinions ...**** off....right?

      But we are buddies on the carbon tax??????

      Pretty tough to engage in school girl tactics of the WCWGA .....
      Disagree with WCWGA all you want. Just don't phone them at home at all hours like Sumdumguy suggested. FYI, I disagree with them on this and plan on letting them know by letter. I'm not a member.

      Their tagline used to be "seeking market based solutions". Endpoint or trailing royalties are anything but market based. Wheat Growers need a history lesson.

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        #15
        Originally posted by Braveheart View Post
        Disagree with WCWGA all you want. Just don't phone them at home at all hours like Sumdumguy suggested. FYI, I disagree with them on this and plan on letting them know by letter. I'm not a member.

        Their tagline used to be "seeking market based solutions". Endpoint or trailing royalties are anything but market based. Wheat Growers need a history lesson.
        Fair enough and BTW ...I disagree with both the seed tax and the carbon tax...and the sad part is we are really playing into the government's hand by conversations like this....divide and conquer....all governments do it to avoid helping primary producers....

        Which are the only guys that make all the secondary guys shitloads of money. ..

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          #16
          Go to the WCWGA website and "cheque" out their sponsors. Lots of "Industry" support, now you know who's Kool-aid their drinking. Hard to take that group serious with a list of sponsors like that.

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            #17
            Braveheart, according to their website, their name implies that they are a wheat growers association and most government would assume that this association is made up of wheat producers. Therefore It would be logical to assume that the opinions of the directors are consistent with those of prairie grain producers. When the directors give their blessing to policy of this magnitude, negatively impacting our operations, I believe they should hear an outcry and not just a little whimper. Farmer’s rights are being trampled on. What reason do you have to protect the directors actions?

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              #18
              Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
              Braveheart, according to their website, their name implies that they are a wheat growers association and most government would assume that this association is made up of wheat producers. Therefore It would be logical to assume that the opinions of the directors are consistent with those of prairie grain producers. When the directors give their blessing to policy of this magnitude, negatively impacting our operations, I believe they should hear an outcry and not just a little whimper. Farmer’s rights are being trampled on. What reason do you have to protect the directors actions?
              The government knows full well well who the wheat growers and the NFU represent. There is no confusion. It has in the past been even a source of entertainment for government. The landscape was more confusing when there was an evil entity called Sask Wheat Pool whose policies confounded everyone.

              As stated earlier, go after the directors, just not at home, at all hours. That's just harassment that their families didn't sign up for.

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                #19
                But again because they are a voluntary organization, like the NFU, they're not accountable to non members.

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                  #20
                  Also, no farm groups make the policy. Government does. Why waste energy and resources on anything but telling government how they've gone horribly wrong on this issue.

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                    #21
                    WHO WE ARE
                    The Western Canadian Wheat Growers Association is a voluntary farmer-run advocacy organization dedicated to developing policy solutions that strengthen the profitability and sustainability of farming, and the agricultural industry as a whole.

                    Our origins date back to December 1969, when a concerned group of producers and industry representatives met to discuss how they could create an effective farm organization to promote positive, market-oriented policy solutions. On April 3, 1970, a charter was granted to the Palliser Wheat Growers Association, today known as the Western Canadian Wheat Growers Association.

                    Back in 1970, the first public policy objective was to obtain protein premiums on wheat. Since then, the Wheat Growers have been instrumental in achieving many key policy goals for prairie farmers and the ag sector, including:

                    -the elimination of inter-provincial boundaries on feed grains
                    the removal of quotas on canola, flax, and feed grains

                    -separate pool and grade classes for malt barley

                    -protein premiums on wheat and finer protein increments

                    -the introduction of CPS types of wheat

                    -creation of the Pesticide Management Regulatory Agency (PMRA) for streamlined pesticide registration applications

                    -removal of oats from the Canadian Wheat Board (CWB)

                    -freer trade with U.S., Mexico, and Europe

                    -pre-harvest glyphosate

                    -plant breeder’s rights, leading to greater development of new crop varieties

                    -grain transportation reform

                    -CWB pricing options

                    -the elimination of Kernel Visual Distinguishability (KVD) as criteria for registration of new wheat varieties

                    -grain marketing freedom

                    -extension of the rail interswitching distance from 30 km to 160 km, creating the opportunity for greater rail competition

                    Today, the Wheat Growers support:

                    -open and competitive markets

                    -a commercial and efficient grain handling and transportation system

                    -agricultural innovations that add value, enhance competitiveness, and increase net returns to farmers

                    -sound, science-based environmental and food safety policies

                    -greater operating freedom to manage our farm businesses in a profitable and sustainable manner

                    -elimination of production-distorting subsidies

                    -removal of barriers to market access

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                      #22
                      Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
                      WHO WE ARE
                      The Western Canadian Wheat Growers Association is a voluntary farmer-run advocacy organization dedicated to developing policy solutions that strengthen the profitability and sustainability of farming, and the agricultural industry as a whole.

                      Our origins date back to December 1969, when a concerned group of producers and industry representatives met to discuss how they could create an effective farm organization to promote positive, market-oriented policy solutions. On April 3, 1970, a charter was granted to the Palliser Wheat Growers Association, today known as the Western Canadian Wheat Growers Association.

                      Back in 1970, the first public policy objective was to obtain protein premiums on wheat. Since then, the Wheat Growers have been instrumental in achieving many key policy goals for prairie farmers and the ag sector, including:

                      -the elimination of inter-provincial boundaries on feed grains
                      the removal of quotas on canola, flax, and feed grains

                      -separate pool and grade classes for malt barley

                      -protein premiums on wheat and finer protein increments

                      -the introduction of CPS types of wheat

                      -creation of the Pesticide Management Regulatory Agency (PMRA) for streamlined pesticide registration applications

                      -removal of oats from the Canadian Wheat Board (CWB)

                      -freer trade with U.S., Mexico, and Europe

                      -pre-harvest glyphosate

                      -plant breeder’s rights, leading to greater development of new crop varieties

                      -grain transportation reform

                      -CWB pricing options

                      -the elimination of Kernel Visual Distinguishability (KVD) as criteria for registration of new wheat varieties

                      -grain marketing freedom

                      -extension of the rail interswitching distance from 30 km to 160 km, creating the opportunity for greater rail competition

                      Today, the Wheat Growers support:

                      -open and competitive markets

                      -a commercial and efficient grain handling and transportation system

                      -agricultural innovations that add value, enhance competitiveness, and increase net returns to farmers

                      -sound, science-based environmental and food safety policies

                      -greater operating freedom to manage our farm businesses in a profitable and sustainable manner

                      -elimination of production-distorting subsidies

                      -removal of barriers to market access
                      And every one of those goals is failing why? Because the real views of real farmers is not being heard. Too much political agendas by all these groups.

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                        #23
                        The word "Industry" does show up in the "about us" statement. And with the list of sponsors it doesn't surprise me in the least.

                        Now if I could only convince myself we, as primary producers, are on equal footing with the list of sponsors. That list of changes may have not benefited primary producers as much as their sponsors.

                        They are Indusrty, as a whole, focused more than Primary Producer focused....IMHO.

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                          #24
                          Seed Synergy: the back story
                          by Cam Goff

                          Over the last two months farmers have become aware of an ominous drive, coordinated by elements of Canada’s seed industry and financially aided by our federal government, that is attempting to eliminate our right to freely save and reuse our own seed.

                          This story actually begins in 1990 when the Canadian government adopted the UPOV ‘78 model law for Plant Breeders Rights despite warnings that it could lead to private industry’s control over the foundation of all agriculture: seed and all other propagating material. (UPOV stands for the International Union for the Protection of New Varieties of Plants)

                          In 2015 Canada adopted UPOV 91. This updated convention prescribes far greater powers for allowing corporations to control and profit from the seeds that form the basis of our food system. It also transformed the right of farmers to save and reuse seeds into a privilege -- one that could be removed or altered by regulation at the whim of government.

                          This led to an immediate and ongoing campaign by elements of Canada’s seed industry to push for regulations to allow them to seize control of our seed network and eliminate farmers’ historic cooperation and sovereignty over their use of seed. This campaign by corporate seed industry lobby groups has been titled “Seed Synergy” and is being supported by Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada (AAFC) to the tune of nearly $500,000 in Growing Forward 2 money.

                          In the first stage of their campaign, the Seed Synergy group claimed they were simply trying to streamline the process by which varieties of grain were registered in Canada, eliminating duplication and making the process faster, easier, and less costly for them. Oh, and by the way, possibly replacing the basic public plant breeding system that Canada has successfully operated under for the past century.

                          Well, time moves on, and plans change. Now, two years later, their message is no longer about streamlining the varietal registration process – they now insist that our public plant breeding system is “broken” (their words) and must be replaced. It is no surprise that they recommend replacing it with a system that would allow the ownership, control, and domination of our seed supply by any company at any price they are able to charge. Any remaining public component -- paid for by taxpayers and farmers of course -- would be relegated to the heavy lifting and background science, which would then be turned over to the companies to charge farmers for the finished product.

                          And what will that cost us? It turns out that no one has done any real cost analysis, so in terms of dollars, no one knows. But Seed Synergy and AAFC both call this whole idea “Value Creation”, so somebody must be going to make some money off of this.

                          On examination of the self-serving justifications being offered by the sponsoring parties, it appears that no value will be created for either farmers or taxpayers, but that value certainly will be captured by the seed companies. As for who that value is extracted from -- it will inevitably come from farmers.

                          Fortunately, this story is far from over, and its ending has not yet been written. Farmers must now take all available opportunities, whether at farm shows, commodity group meetings or the AAFC consultation process, to ensure farmers’ right to save and use their own seed is upheld.
                          - 30 -

                          Cam Goff is National Farmers Union 1st Vice President (Policy). He farms with his brothers, growing malt barley, canola, durum, spring and winter wheat, oats, flax and peas on their 4,000 acre operation near Hanley, Saskatchewan.

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