China, the other side of the moon!

[Robertbarlage]

Good place to send libtards!

[sawfly1]

Going to the moon , I say good for them.
national pride.
And the tech advancements ,
Hard to measure.
I find it all fascinating

As for national debt in the US
Remember Obama,
a had to bail out the 08 crash
Handed from bush.
Right or wrong both parties were for it.

Now Trump has added 2 trillion debt. in the last 2 years.in good times no less.

Not a lot different is it.

Healthcare , we pay 60% of what the US pays , so I think we have room to step up , and improve things.
Even a user fee, simply to dissuade those overusing the system
Would be fine.

[sumdumguy]

Funded health care in Canada will eventually have to go to some hybrid model. Maybe the US is ahead of the game here. Our system will eventually need private money as in the form of user fees or something to keep it going. That's what the US should look at. Like charge $100 or something for a doc office visit which are very common. That would have the average family contributing to the system on an affordable level. Then use those funds to prop up the big expensive operations nobody can afford that you might need once or twice a decade or something.

Political suicide unless Trudeau does it and exempts specific groups. Only the white middle class will have to pay the $100 for doctor visit, That’s my guess.

[sumdumguy]

Trudeau is doing the same thing to the people of Alberta....taking their money and knowing full well Alberta people are hurting and then using his adjustment of the Equalization formula to force feed Quebec the money from Alberta .....Billions sent to Quebec that could have been used by Alberta to build another pipeline and avoid both Alberta and Quebec....

Wally shouldn't have used up a couple billion on non revenue things like the stadium and the bypass...

What's the number in the last 2 years ...over 10 billion sucked out of saskatchewan and alberta for Quebec...


This should be the CBC headlines every day not whats happening in the White house ....

There is no way Notley should have gone along with Trudeau’s tax. Did she really think Trudeau would repay the favour?

[MBgrower]

Political suicide unless Trudeau does it and exempts specific groups. Only the white middle class will have to pay the $100 for doctor visit, That’s my guess.

Agree, the same usual group that floods our health care system will still get priorty and abuse the system at the tax payer expense. it is quite sickening when someone who rarely uses the system, has to go to the back of the line and then wait two years for elective surgery. this system needs, at the bare minimum allow more private services for those that want to bypass these two year waits.

[grassfarmer]

Agree, the same usual group that floods our health care system will still get priorty and abuse the system at the tax payer expense. it is quite sickening when someone who rarely uses the system, has to go to the back of the line and then wait two years for elective surgery. this system needs, at the bare minimum allow more private services for those that want to bypass these two year waits.

Thats the way its gone in Britain - free to the unemployed, elderly, pregnant, children, low income etc so only about 20% pay the fees. There they have the option of private service - typically if you need an operation you can get it fairly quick - the operation is free but the recovery stay is paid for by the patient in a private facility. That apparently is the shortage in their system - they have the surgeons and operating room capacity but not the hospital beds and nurses to use them fully. Seems to work Ok.

[malleefarmer]

Health im no expert.

Australia we have universal medicare which i think is 2% of taxable income.

Low income unemployed aged disabled get free health care.

I go to a doctor its $65 for a consult so govt is paying a portion.

Surgery etc for is 85% govt funded patient has to pay the rest huge huge waiting list for surgery again except for low income etc as above they pay zero.

Private health cover encouraged by govt and they pay 30% of premium but its a sliding scale income earners of $140,000 and above have to pay for own private.

I pay $387 per month for private and get $1200 back per year but no waiting on surgery.

Cheaper than worker accident insurance.

[shtferbrains]

[QUOTE=sawfly1;399096]Going to the moon , I say good for them.
national pride.
And the tech advancements ,
Hard to measure.
I find it all fascinating


Back in the early 70's I was fortunate to get one of my first jobs in a start up Pea fractional plant.

One of my co-workers had the first Texas Instruments scientific calculator I ever saw and knew how to use it.

The first hand held computer that replaced the slide rule and a pen and paper.

A direct result of the 60's space race.

I think it cost him $175 at a time when nurses made $4 hr.

We needed a high capacity protein tester as we were using one that you poured reagent thru and looked much like a moisture tester. Had to calibrate every 5 samples.

Two former Vietnam Vets/former NASA workers brought in a huge digital scanner that as leading edge never seen before.

NASA had far reaching effects in those days and touched us way out in the boonies.