US Politics

[jazz]

My grandparents never visited their home country again after they got here. In fact, they barely ever made it out off the tiny homestead in the middle of nowhere. There was no welfare or CPP or OAS or medical care. There was nothing out on this land. And they carved something out of it that we all benefit from. To compare todays immigrants with them is the most insulting thing ever. They were pioneers not immigrants and they would be appalled at our pathetic weak country.

[grassfarmer]

..couldn't give a **** about trump or his wall . too many problems here...

The topic was American politics and Trump's wall.

[malleefarmer]

The topic was American politics and Trump's wall.

Topic question was actually more about will ANYTHING get passed in usa because dems have majority in upper house nothing will pass.

Kinda got sidetracked or worse sidewalled.....

Reading somewere no usda reports also some of the govt weather modelling isnt coming out plus a myriad of other things because of shutdown.

[the big wheel]

Instead of causing a shut down where innocent people don't work while politicians play their childish games how about it be illegal to shut down government and if an agreement isn't reached the politicians pay a fine both sides pay a huge fine in accordance with their income. For example trumps a billionaire so he and any other billionaire that can't negotiate an agreement pay 10 s of millions per each day an agreement isn't reached. Things would get settled a whole lot quicker and less stupid stunts would be pulled.