DNA testing services...

[bobofthenorth]

Do the various types of DNA testing provide accurate information about where your ancestors came from or just a ball park area? How far back. People were also nomadic to some extent. Interbreeding through conquest or otherwise. Even specific tests for maternal and paternal lineage don't seem to be read the same or need different interpretation. What about genetic predisposition to disease and health problems.

I suppose there may be varying levels of quality to the services but I've heard too many stories about people sending in their cat's saliva and getting back a report saying their ancestors came from somewhere real to ever believe any of them. Testing your DNA for its "ancestry" has exactly zero to do with real genealogy. There's only one way to do that - it takes time and eventually it involves the Mormons. They have a fantastic database which is now available online. When I started - 40+ years ago - the only way to access their information was by visiting Salt Lake. That's actually fortunate because a trip to their library is an experience like no other. If you're serious about genealogy put the DNA test money towards a trip to Salt Lake City.

If you just want some entertainment then the DNA testing can't hurt anything unless your brother is a serial rapist.

[farmaholic]

Thanks Bobofthenorth. As I started this thread out.... Unless you have something to hide, yadda yadda yadda. Criminally minded, yadda yadda yadda.

Law enforcement can't take fingerprints unless you are being criminally charged... and people are voluntarily submitting their DNA(the new modern day fingerprint) to DNA testing companies. If governments had their way, they would have every person's DNA on file. Please pass the tinfoil, thank you!

The MarketPlace show was an eye-opener in regards to it's accuracy nailing down ethnic lineage.

I haven't done a test but know people who are waiting for their results. I am close enough to say the results will be interesting but I won't be putting much stock in them.

In my opinion it will change absolutely nothing...

[fjlip]

Well if you reread my post ours are 100% believable, connected me with a cousin on mothers side, confirmed paternal grandmother born in Chicago, wife adopted mixed race totally accurate.

[makar]

For farma from wiki on menonites sure applies to black hats to,In the 1770s Catherine the Great of the Russian Empire acquired a great deal of land north of the Black Sea (in present-day Ukraine) following the Russo-Turkish War and the takeover of the Ottoman vassal, the Crimean Khanate. Russian government officials invited Mennonites living in the Kingdom of Prussia to farm the Ukrainian steppes depopulated by Tatar raids in exchange for religious freedom and military exemption. Over the years the Mennonite farmers were very successful.

Between 1874 and 1880 some 16,000 Mennonites of approximately 45,000 left Russia. About nine thousand departed for the United States (mainly Kansas and Nebraska) and seven thousand for Canada (mainly Manitoba). In the 1920s Russian Mennonites from Canada started to migrate to Latin America (Mexico and Paraguay), soon followed by Mennonite refugees from the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Further migrations of these Mennonites led to settlements in Brazil, Uruguay, Belize, Bolivia and Argentina. As i understand these people by a later czar were forced to leave for refusing military service, hence my funny dressing neighbors. Your families silience may be due to dropping whatever faith they left behind, i see it here today. Your surname may not matter, many changed it, as did a good old guy i know who passed way.

[makar]

Catherine the great brought in many germans because she was one, farmas likely left because things chaanged for whatever reason

[farmaholic]

Thanks Makar. I have the book Paradise on the Stepped by Joseph Height. Never read Karl Stumpp's book about German emmigration to Russia yet.
I doubt there is any Mennonite lineage in our blood because there is no lifestyle that would indicate it. We are Catlicks. Some smoked and drank alcohol.
We are probably similar to the German Nazi line...my kids once jokingly(?hopefully?) called me "Führer ____" LMFAO!

Edit in, still really don't know why they left the Black Sea region when they did. Shit hadn't hit the fan by then yet, that I'm aware of. Maybe there were signs and changes already happening when they decided to leave by 1886.

[furrowtickler]

I would love to see the legit DNA testing on Justin ...
viva la Cuba 🇨🇺 lol .
But that would be exactly like trying to get true numbers on China or India grain stocks.
Might as well try to fly to the moon with a para sail

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I would love to see the legit DNA testing on Justin ...
viva la Cuba 🇨🇺 lol .
But that would be exactly like trying to get true numbers on China or India grain stocks.
Might as well try to fly to the moon with a para sail

I don't think there is much debate about what the outcome of his DNA test would be.

What would be more interesting is an IQ test.

[macdon02]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-01/one-biggest-home-dna-testing-companies-secretly-sharing-data-fbi

FamilyTreeDNA, one of the pioneers of the growing market for "at home", consumer genetic testing, confirmed a report from*BuzzFeed*that it has quietly granted the Federal Bureau of Investigation access to its vast trove of nearly 2 million genetic profiles.

[farmaholic]

I am not surprised in the least that law enforement was granted access.

I said if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear. Although the article did mention innocent relatives of guilty people can be dragged into investigations. They could use your relation to the suspect to help close the loop on them. I guess all you'd have to do is provide a DNA sample to prove your not an exact match...still an invasion of privacy and giving up anonymity to prove your innocent.

Market Place interviewed a guy who called the whole thing, the way these companies are representing DNA testing and the merits of the results of determining ancestry, "recreational science" and "entertainment". But the results can definitely be useful for solving some crimes by direct and indirect matches.

My nephew got my parents the kits...I guess our family is now in the data base. I don't think I have anything to worry about...do I????
We're not mob related but you never know there could be some half siblings running around out there I'm not aware of.