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    #21
    Originally posted by Misterjade9 View Post
    Pgluca: Don't you think we are already feeling the effects of this society? We elected a party to run this country whose leader was one of those given a medal for just showing up.

    " I could have been an actor, but I wound up here."
    " I just have to look good, I don't need to be clear."

    Don Henley, from the song Dirty Laundry.
    Misterjade9, We are undoubtably feeling the effects. However until the severity is great enough that it becomes an issue that resonates with a significant portion of the population nothing will happen. Also there has to be recognition of the cause. Perhaps that will be the hardest part because it will require realizing that the "everyone is entitled and everyone is equal" philosophy is just unworkable.

    Regarding the issue of a competent and viable country leadership, I wonder if, as political correctness becomes more important than rational and functional policy, a country essentially becomes ungovernable.

    Politicians as was pointed out by someone else, seem to have only one focus....reelection, which makes them political prostitutes for every popular cause, or loud special interest group, etc. And as I wrote earlier you have to be "SPECIAL" to want that job, being an egomaniac or someone with a superiority complex combined with self masochistic tendencies would fit. The Ed Stellmacs (I may have spelled his name wrong) of this world, who only want to promote good government get crushed.

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      #22
      Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
      A leader like Winston Churchill would be ridiculed in today’s social media and fakes newspapers. You only need to turn on CNN to see the battering that Trump takes on a constant basis.
      I don't believe anyone could seriously consider mentioning Trump in the same breath as Churchill. Opposite ends of the spectrum of leadership.


      Originally posted by SASKFARMER3 View Post
      ..But when the cow went to the airport to greet the Saudi girl...
      Well there's one reason half the population doesn't want to get into politics. Ignorant misogyny.

      You're a big talker SF3 - always wanting better representation from useless farm organizations - what have you ever done to improve them? Endless time and resources on your hands and I bet you've done nothing to further or represent any group.

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        #23
        Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
        I don't believe anyone could seriously consider mentioning Trump in the same breath as Churchill. Opposite ends of the spectrum of leadership...

        Not all would agree. There is one camp who unceremoniously lumps them into the same heap.

        https://www.jacobinmag.com/2018/01/winston-churchill-british-empire-colonialism https://www.jacobinmag.com/2018/01/winston-churchill-british-empire-colonialism

        When our times have had the sterilizing benefit of 50 -75 years of retrospect, it will be interesting to see how history has presented today's leaders.

        Whatever Churchill was in reality, he was the leader the Western world needed for that time. All have feet of clay.

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          #24
          Originally posted by burnt View Post
          Not all would agree. There is one camp who unceremoniously lumps them into the same heap.

          https://www.jacobinmag.com/2018/01/winston-churchill-british-empire-colonialism https://www.jacobinmag.com/2018/01/winston-churchill-british-empire-colonialism

          When our times have had the sterilizing benefit of 50 -75 years of retrospect, it will be interesting to see how history has presented today's leaders.

          Whatever Churchill was in reality, he was the leader the Western world needed for that time. All have feet of clay.
          Without a doubt Churchill had his flaws but his wartime leadership will be remembered as his (and Britain's) finest hour.
          Trump's reign is more likely to be remembered as the "WTF era."

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            #25
            and his razor sharp wit and tongue

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