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Originally posted by Integrity_Farmer View PostNO! Trudeau and Freeland are incompetent and they have taken a hostage for Trump. Trudeau is a Trump puppet.
This the arrest of Huawei executive Ms Wang has nothing to do with spying. She was arrested for breaking the US sanctions in Iran. Her husband is a Vancouver resident
The arrest and extradition have to be consistent with Canadian and international law. There are no Canadian sanctions on Iran. The US sanctions on Iran are a violation of Canadian and International (UN) law adopted by the United Nations.
So when Trudeau tells you "we are a country of law he is lying to you" Trudeau is in fact acting in violation of Canadian and International law
Please read this article from Christopher Black a Criminal lawyer https://www.journal-neo.org/2018/12/08/canada-takes-a-hostage-free-meng-wanzhou/
The USA has demonstrated it is willing to ignore human rights and international laws when it suits them. The US system is deeply flawed and they are becoming much more inward looking and isolated under Trump. But Trump will soon be gone and hopefully they will elect a competent next President.
As much as the US is flawed and I disagree with many of their foreign and domestic policies, the US still has a better more open political system than China and is a more important ally for Canada.
Its up to the government of the day with their diplomatic channels and China experts to sort this out. We can sit back and second guess their decisions, but in the end few of us know the full story or appreciate the complicated nature of this issue.
Huawei has greatly benefited from Canadian research. Jim Balsillie former head of RIM says Canada is giving away our technological advances to Chinese companies with little benefit. Huawei's main advantage in providing 5G is they are cheaper than the competitors. But since China has a law that allows the Chinese government to force Huawei to act in the interest of the Chinese government, why should we take that risk? Maybe other systems are vulnerable too. But many countries are not willing to go along with Huawei.
Why doesn't the government help develop 5G network with a Canadian tech company? Or in partnership with European or US companies?
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Originally posted by chuckChuck View PostThere may be some substance to what Black suggests. But it is a complicated mess to sort out.
The USA has demonstrated it is willing to ignore human rights and international laws when it suits them. The US system is deeply flawed and they are becoming much more inward looking and isolated under Trump. But Trump will soon be gone and hopefully they will elect a competent next President.
As much as the US is flawed and I disagree with many of their foreign and domestic policies, the US still has a better more open political system than China and is a more important ally for Canada.
Its up to the government of the day with their diplomatic channels and China experts to sort this out. We can sit back and second guess their decisions, but in the end few of us know the full story or appreciate the complicated nature of this issue.
Huawei has greatly benefited from Canadian research. Jim Balsillie former head of RIM says Canada is giving away our technological advances to Chinese companies with little benefit. Huawei's main advantage in providing 5G is they are cheaper than the competitors. But since China has a law that allows the Chinese government to force Huawei to act in the interest of the Chinese government, why should we take that risk? Maybe other systems are vulnerable too. But many countries are not willing to go along with Huawei.
Why doesn't the government help develop 5G network with a Canadian tech company? Or in partnership with European or US companies?
Your statement "the US still has a better more open political system than China and is a more important ally for Canada" That is not the issue. What you are saying is that that Canada is not an independent country and is a rogue state supporting Trump and his sanctions on Iran. These Iran sanctions was the reason given in Canadian court for the arrest.
I believe in an independent country. We need to support the rule of law as we agreed to in the UN. Supporting US sanctions on Iran is in fact violation of international law.
Please review this article where Trump states he will release Meng when he completes a successful trade deal with China
Trump is quoted in this attached article. "Trump said he would consider intervening in the Justice Department’s case against Meng if it would be in the interest of U.S. national security or help forge a trade deal with Beijing.
So then Canada has taken a hostage for Trump. We now have the consequences. How will this impact farmers.
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/cp-newsalert-b-c-judge-grants-bail-for-huawei-executive-wanted-by-u-s
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I am all for a more independent Canada as well. But when the US and China push you around what are you going to do?
Chretien said no to Bush and the invasion of Iraq. Harper was all in favour. How many Canadian Troops would we have lost fighting a useless war that has destabilized the middle east?
In hind sight we should have let Ms Huawei continue on her way. The US would hardly have noticed. Let them play their Trumpian games.
US farmers are still waiting for their soybean tariff compensation cheques. Argentina is importing cheaper US soybeans and exporting their own to China at a nice price premium.
The gods must be crazy!
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