Saskatoon seed royalty meeting

[hobbyfrmr]

New or old varieties are all priced off the same market conditions.....

And when one of the new varieties disrupts the market like the Triffid flax incident ....it won't matter what variety you are growing...

It also doesn't matter what variety you grow when you have a Prime Minister pissing off all of our importers....

Or an infrastructure system that can't handle higher volumes.....

This is just a way for the industry to find the minions that will follow their rules.....the WCWGA are on board already...


now....where is the brick wall I can go bang my head on....

Agreed.

[bucket]

Wiseguys seed and research !

Taking Farmers money at every turn !

$$ Money in ag more than ever $$

Yup just think up some stupid project and get funding while compete against people that are still using hoes. ....and flailing their grain to thrash it.....that's the harsh reality....some don't understand....

[jazz]

Maybe what this is saying that Canada shouldn't be in the wheat game at all anymore. Is anybody really getting a win with this crop? Most seed it for rotation and to clean up fields.

We cant compete with the world on volume and our profits keep getting eroded by stupid shit, dysfunctional market to boot. Too many places growing it cheaper or subsidized then flooding the market using technology pioneered here. Maybe we have to move on to working our niche crops. Pulses, canola, barley. let them develop their varieties. Wont do them much good if nobody is growing anything.

[farming101]

The world comes to Canada for quality.
Importers can get ordinary wheat from anywhere.
Russia, Ukraine and Kazakhstan had 30% of the world wheat trade in 2017 and besides that sold their wheat for 30% less per tonne than Canada. Can't compete on price and they aren't going away.
Canada did 20.6 million tonnes in calendar year 2017 and will likely do at least that this year. It's over 10% of the world market and worth keeping.
#1 13.5 has averaged 240-245/tonne in Sask over the last 2 years. Yields of the big acre varieties were over 50 bpa in Sask in 2017.

[grassfarmer]

It seems that quality reputation is under attack too 101.

http://www.nfu.ca/nfu-asks-cgc-commissioners-to-uphold-farmers-interests-and-canadas-grain-quality-standards/ http://https://www.nfu.ca/nfu-asks-cgc-commissioners-to-uphold-farmers-interests-and-canadas-grain-quality-standards/

I see why vvalk wants rid of the CGC, it's holding back his buddies on the seed file attempts to further weaken the farmers position.

[walterm]

It seems that quality reputation is under attack too 101.

http://www.nfu.ca/nfu-asks-cgc-commissioners-to-uphold-farmers-interests-and-canadas-grain-quality-standards/ http://https://www.nfu.ca/nfu-asks-cgc-commissioners-to-uphold-farmers-interests-and-canadas-grain-quality-standards/

I see why vvalk wants rid of the CGC, it's holding back his buddies on the seed file attempts to further weaken the farmers position.

Since the restructuring of CGC in the last two short years we have had Ecoli in western mills and now glass in bread products in the east. Whether related to restructure or not hasn't been released, but you can bet that our customers like China and Japan etc are watching.

[jazz]

The world comes to Canada for quality.

Well the customers have yet to show their faces and they are sitting on the sidelines trying to cheat us down on prices. 1CWAD is $6.50 right now. Should be $2 higher than that for top quality with protein.

If its just a matter of reminding our customers where the quality is, that's an easy fix. Who is doing that. Stop announcing more research dollars and somebody get on an fn plane and fly to Italy and Africa and see if these guys are going to shit or get off the pot.

[farming101]

Some are making a good dollar growing the lower quality wheats. There are many varieties in Canada already. Find a market and supply it.
Regarding the article, I'm not really seeing how anyone would grow wheat under an IP contract if they are going to make less? Regarding the price of feed, well, we grow feed wheat and are netting as much or more than top quality HRSW. That's what some of the conversation above was about. Producing top quality without being rewarded. Not something you quickly forget.

Rather than wheat quality being watered down it has been tightened up with the new CNHR designation in Western Canada. Farmers are doing their part jumping through hoops everywhere.

Also, the grain companies have been blending grain for as long as they have been in business.
#1 CWRS is allowed .5% contrasting classes of wheat and 1.5% total of other classes or varieties of wheat. Also, #1 CWRS can have up to .4% other cereals to make export grade #1.

[malleefarmer]

[QUOTE=farming101;400471]Some are making a good dollar growing the lower quality wheats. There are many varieties in Canada already. Find a market and supply it.

Farming 101 your spot on there in many ways.

We have Hard1 Hard2 premium wheats then APW australian premium our "base" grade which everything is priced of off. H1 H2 15 and 25 dollars above.

Then ASW austrlian standard white basically a noodle wheat, the yellow asian noodle you buy at super market.

Then gp general purpose wheat then feed wheat.

Many of the highest wheats bred for superior yeild often lack some inherent qualities that dont make it premium for flour mills.

Usually priced 10 to 15 below apw. But has good protien etc just trouble with dough rising times colour etc. Guess what it what the feedlotter poultry guys pig guys wnat best bang for there buck.

Know many farmers that grow asw only because of yield and bypass elevator system and sell dirrect and make good bucks

[farmaholic]

If wheat is sold on spec does it matter how much of an almost indistinguishable class the HRS has blended into it? As long as it meets it's specs and performs like its supposed to. I assume you could get away with alot of nice red winter in high protein high falling number CWRS...probably "more than the law will allow". And if a growing season was such that CNHR had acceptable falling numbers I wonder if it could find its way into a boat of HRS.

And feed barley is never malted, especially the rejected malt barley designated feed.

But what does any of this have to do with the seed tax.