Saskatoon seed royalty meeting

[SASKFARMER3]

Look to canola!

Drop mike enough said.

It’s our disease and fert and year 36 of no till, not seed.

[bucket]

New or old varieties are all priced off the same market conditions.....

And when one of the new varieties disrupts the market like the Triffid flax incident ....it won't matter what variety you are growing...

It also doesn't matter what variety you grow when you have a Prime Minister pissing off all of our importers....

Or an infrastructure system that can't handle higher volumes.....

This is just a way for the industry to find the minions that will follow their rules.....the WCWGA are on board already...


now....where is the brick wall I can go bang my head on....

[jazz]

In the last few yrs yield and quality have not proven out profitably. Sure we grow more, but the price is depressed, no new chemistries or disease characteristics so it will just be more of the 102% of check marketing crap. That's not what this industry needs. We need a group that will advocate on the growers behalf all the way right to the consumers plate. Where are the organizations trying to help find someone buy our durum? Where is that fn pasta plant?

Lots of millers and processers have learned how to use lower quality wheat now so we are producing something the market doesn't even want....why produce more of it? We wont compete with these countries opening up vast tracts of land by growing a bushel or two per acre. We will compete by shoring up our markets and trade deals and re-establishing Canada as a reliable supplier, not an over-producer cheap dumper. Everyone has bins full of durum they wont sell cause the price is depressed.

[bucket]

In the last few yrs yield and quality have not proven out profitably. Sure we grow more, but the price is depressed, no new chemistries or disease characteristics so it will just be more of the 102% of check marketing crap. That's not what this industry needs. We need a group that will advocate on the growers behalf all the way right to the consumers plate. Where are the organizations trying to help find someone buy our durum? Where is that fn pasta plant?

Lots of millers and processers have learned how to use lower quality wheat now so we are producing something the market doesn't even want....why produce more of it? We wont compete with these countries opening up vast tracts of land by growing a bushel or two per acre. We will compete by shoring up our markets and trade deals and re-establishing Canada as a reliable supplier, not an over-producer cheap dumper. Everyone has bins full of durum they wont sell cause the price is depressed.

What we have done is Indexed the BPA instead of the price per bushel...we lose money on every transaction/bushel......but we make it up on volume......

My forehead is red.....the bricks are starting to hurt...

[jazz]

What we have done is Indexed the BPA instead of the price per bushel...we lose money on every transaction/bushel......but we make it up on volume......

My forehead is red.....the bricks are starting to hurt...

If the human consumption market isn't fixed, farmers are just going to start growing oats and crap barley for rotation. I am not going to have my durum feeding pigs in china. f that.

[bucket]

If the human consumption market isn't fixed, farmers are just going to start growing oats and crap barley for rotation. I am not going to have my durum feeding pigs in china. f that.

Its not feeding pigs....its just that the end users can make food out of our 4cwad.....which begs the question about R&D into quality and quantity....

[jazz]

Its not feeding pigs....its just that the end users can make food out of our 4cwad.....which begs the question about R&D into quality and quantity....

And that creates the problem right there. In order to at last try to break even on cereals, I have to fertilize the sh*t out of it and we end up with high protein #1 last two yrs at least. Spending like a #1 to get paid like a #4 and lose money on quality or spend like a #4 to get a #4 and lose money on yield. There is no way out of this trap. Doesn't make sense to try and grow it.

[Rareearth]

We will never out compete China, Eastern Europe, Russia, South America in the commodity markets, our cost of production, regulation, monitoring, freight are all to high, taxation, cost of equipment, infrastructure, cost of living, etc

Why everyone wants to race to commodity markets is insane. What I here or feel when people talk this way is we should sell wheat at a lower cost than the Black Sea ( good, bad or ugly grain) that cannot, and will never happen. Their pricing system or model is “sell at a lower price than every one else” almost Trump like, or Walmart

[jazz]

We will never out compete China, Eastern Europe, Russia, South America in the commodity markets, our cost of production, regulation, monitoring, freight are all to high, taxation, cost of equipment, infrastructure, cost of living, etc

To make matter worse, the food guide came out yesterday and is telling the world to stop eating meat. There goes the diversified farm and ranching. Now all those acres of marginal land will get converted to cheap commodity crops, then over supply like the 80s and its game over for us.

[vvalk]

Read the November 27 news release from WCWGA and edition of the Western Producer and what Levi Wood said in the article ...you dumb ****....

Big talk Bucket behind a computer screen. I don’t remember ever getting personal with you. You are the typical jealous farmer at the coffee shop. Know it all yet can’t seem to get ahead. Why don’t you post the press release? Every release has been, yes in favour of change but not standing behind any one model yet. That needs to be determined.