sheepwheat grass may be of interest kill sheet

[malleefarmer]

Guess this is why livestock so strong in Austarlia and wool of course were number one

[malleefarmer]

Interesting, don't think I've ever seen a kill sheet for cull ewes, ours were always sold liveweight. Interesting that you have no price differentiation other than for weight despite the fat class gradings. I'm struck by your wide variation of weights and that heavier ewes are the lowest priced/kg. In Scotland it's the other way - they want the big ewes and i'm sure on a kill sheet like this they'd show more weight and more $ per kg. There are basically 2 categories at auction in Scotland - light ewes and heavy ewes. Light averaging about AUS$42 and heavies $90 at the moment so you probably have a bigger spread on price too.
So do you lamb ewe lambs or are they shearlings by the time they have their first lambs? We would never keep anything past 7 yo. Ewes were sold off the real hill farms at 5 years old having had 4 crops of lambs and we would keep them on lower land for another 2 years max. Ewes born on lower land places would be lambed at a year old so you got another crop off them.

Some slaughter houses want heavier.

The above slaughter house at times pays top dollar for light lamb and they actually put them inside a beef carcase when shipped.

Often bigger sheep more fat.

All sorts of opinions but many say your better to run 1.5 70kg ewes to the acre than say 1 100kg ewe per acre. Big consumes more less lambs guess same argument in cattle.

[malleefarmer]

That 936 cents a kilo greasy is around lets say $11.00/11.80

Think i may have mentioned a friend got $15 per kg for some wool 2 weeks ago

[malleefarmer]

Last post on this topic sorry for boring you grain growers

A cross section of abbatior prices last week.

[grassfarmer]

So you don't have any carcass conformation classes? only fat cover is used to classify even lambs?

[Horse]

Malle not questioning just pointing out you have 103000 in wool sales here 0 i dont see where you have an allowance for replacements,25,30%. here 6 mo feed i guess she wastes feed but seems like 7#/head/day thats on self feed as she needs to have an off farm job to enjoy her sheep,
Whats DSEs

[grassfarmer]

DSE - Dry sheep/shearling equivalent? = 1 two year old sheep.

[malleefarmer]

Malle not questioning just pointing out you have 103000 in wool sales here 0 i dont see where you have an allowance for replacements,25,30%. here 6 mo feed i guess she wastes feed but seems like 7#/head/day thats on self feed as she needs to have an off farm job to enjoy her sheep,
Whats DSEs

Its called a self replacing merino flock

1000 ewes think it says 950 lambs

So 475 ewe lambs 475 wether lambs

Wether lambs sold

Ewe lambs kept on and culls sold as hogget think it says 200 sales.

Each year you sell of old ewes and replace with younger ones and have ewe lambs as well....clear as mud?

DSE dry sheep equivalent.

Stocking rate refers to the number of livestock on a paddock or a whole farm and is expressed as an indication of number of a particular type of animal per unit area. The usual measure is dry sheep equivalents (DSE) per hectare (ha), however, this may also be expressed in terms of cattle per unit area, such as breeders (cattle) per ha or square kilometre.

Dry sheep equivalent and stocking density
A DSE is used as a method of standardising an animal unit and is the amount of feed required by a two year old, 50kg Merino wether to maintain its weight. Applying this principle, one 50kg dry goat is equivalent to one DSE and one yearling steer is equivalent to about 8 DSE, whereas a lactating cow may be equivalent to as much as 25 DSE.

Stocking density (head/ha) refers to the number of stock per hectare on a grazing area or unit at any one time and is usually used to describe the number of stock per unit area in a high-density grazing situation.

One Dry Sheep Equivalent (DSE) represents the
consumption of 1 kg dry weight (also called dry
matter DM) of pasture. In other words,
1 DSE = 1 kg pasture dry weight eaten each day.
One kilogram of pasture dry weight (also called
herbage mass) of average quality contains the
energy required for a mature 50 kg wether or dry
ewe to maintain its bodyweight.

Class of stock DSE rating Daily intake of pasture dry
weight (kg DM/day)
30 kg lamb growing at 50 g/day 0.9 dse
50 kg wether maintaining weight 1 dse
60 kg ewe with twin lambs 3 dse
300 kg steer growing at 1 kg/day 10 dse
500 kg cow with new calf at foot 16 dse

[malleefarmer]

So you don't have any carcass conformation classes? only fat cover is used to classify even lambs?

basically yeah