Why the Big push to soy in Sask. You need a August rain!

[mustardman]

The Last few years when “Growing Soybeans” was the topic at Regional Pulse meeting in SOUTH WEST SASK for ****sake- I got up and went out for a Coffee-

Rule of Thumb -If you are in a Lentil or Chickpea area YOU are NOT in a soybean area

If you are growing decent soybeans ,then you’ve got some pretty Crappy lentil grades

[blackpowder]

They would have to push the maturity on beans to match canola, and then the yield as well.
Can't argue with nature. Since the ice age it has driven the native plant species it supports, right up to the current values it drives and everything in between.
So, growth patterns wrong, margin wrong... a long way off for here.

[bucket]

The Last few years when “Growing Soybeans” was the topic at Regional Pulse meeting in SOUTH WEST SASK for ****sake- I got up and went out for a Coffee-

Rule of Thumb -If you are in a Lentil or Chickpea area YOU are NOT in a soybean area

If you are growing decent soybeans ,then you’ve got some pretty Crappy lentil grades

Yup in 2016 I grew 40 acres of soybeans ...really got me excited 35 bpa....lentils were a 2/3 grade but still worth 30 cents....

2017 was too dry and so was 2018.....but I had some fields do OK....Its just another crop in the rotation that allows to extend it as required....Canola is just too expensive for my liking....what was the WP saying the other day 20 bucks per acre profit.....might as well go pump gas...

[MBgrower]

Get the right amount of rain here and 50-55 bpa, last year 5" rain from april to august = 25 bpa. but generally we are usually on the wetter side, to the point where canola suffers, and beans thrive. beans are the winner here for profitability.

[Jay-mo]

Get the right amount of rain here and 50-55 bpa, last year 5" rain from april to august = 25 bpa. but generally we are usually on the wetter side, to the point where canola suffers, and beans thrive. beans are the winner here for profitability.

I keep hearing guys say how much beans love it wet. Well 2016 was the last wet year and the beans turned yellow, shriveled up and did 20. Canola right beside it yielded in the 40's.
Last year, yep 5 inches of rain, beans went 25 and canola was double or more.
I really want soys to work but they're not helping their cause.

[bgmb]

We have had beans yield same as canola on a wet year, around 40. RRV guys will tell you many stories of beans outyielding canola.

Nothing likes dry or wet. beans will not drown out like canola but waterlogged soils will still stunt them.

[SASKFARMER3]

We over the years did hit yields that would pay the bills. No nitrogen but ground is nice for next crop.

But you miss the rain in August and piss poor. Or if they hear on the radio it will get down to 5 above at night they seem to just sayF#$K it and top pods abort.

Reality is the short season wasn't designed for Canada but for the USA as a second crop after winter wheat is harvested.

I would rather grow oats or barley and get something than hit miss miss some hit miss skunked hit.

[bigzee]

Just another crop where seed costs are way out of line. Yes, you don’t need fert but still $100/ac for seed is too much on a crop we really know nothing about.
Like SF3 said would rather pay $15 ac for seed barley and know you will get something back and turn a decent profit. For me it’s all about net return not the fancy number a commodity is paying. The crops that cost a ton to grow better have a high number, cost to grow them is getting out of hand.

[bgmb]

We over the years did hit yields that would pay the bills. No nitrogen but ground is nice for next crop.

But you miss the rain in August and piss poor. Or if they hear on the radio it will get down to 5 above at night they seem to just sayF#$K it and top pods abort.

Reality is the short season wasn't designed for Canada but for the USA as a second crop after winter wheat is harvested.

I would rather grow oats or barley and get something than hit miss miss some hit miss skunked hit.

Beans look bad right now. Coming off 2 record dry years and a supply glut of epic proportions in the US. This time next year could be a different story. I think its good to keep as many crops as you can in the rotation.

[farmaholic]

Just another crop where seed costs are way out of line. Yes, you don’t need fert but still $100/ac for seed is too much on a crop we really know nothing about.
Like SF3 said would rather pay $15 ac for seed barley and know you will get something back and turn a decent profit. For me it’s all about net return not the fancy number a commodity is paying. The crops that cost a ton to grow better have a high number, cost to grow them is getting out of hand.

Isn't this the truth. So just because you don't need any nitro fert doesn't mean the soybean seed cost has to steal that benefit. Just think what the seed and innoculant would cost if they ever develop nitrogen fixing cereals.