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    Big ad in the Alberta Express rag with the 'FACTS' on the seed tax. Q1: Isn't our existing model working? They go on to say that it isn't because Canuckistan invests less than our wheat export competitors and as such we are falling behind. Over the past 5 years there has been a proliferation of new varieties coming on the market. How is that falling behind? I realize many of them are closely related to each other. Is more investment going to get more me too varieties? The wheat market in the world is saturated with excess production everywhere. Just imagine what is going to happen after it rains in eastern OZ. Canuckistan is falling behind but that is due to structural inefficiency, poor weather (eight months of winter so need more winter wheat) and poor geography. Need more access to the coast but how is a new seed tax going to help with that? Seed growers: please educate.

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    42 red spring wheat varieties in the Sask seed guide. Almost the very same so no variety gets many acres. If the seed industry can’t make money they can only blame themselves for all the duplication.

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      #3
      Originally posted by ajl View Post
      Big ad in the Alberta Express rag with the 'FACTS' on the seed tax. Q1: Isn't our existing model working? They go on to say that it isn't because Canuckistan invests less than our wheat export competitors and as such we are falling behind. Over the past 5 years there has been a proliferation of new varieties coming on the market. How is that falling behind? I realize many of them are closely related to each other. Is more investment going to get more me too varieties? The wheat market in the world is saturated with excess production everywhere. Just imagine what is going to happen after it rains in eastern OZ. Canuckistan is falling behind but that is due to structural inefficiency, poor weather (eight months of winter so need more winter wheat) and poor geography. Need more access to the coast but how is a new seed tax going to help with that? Seed growers: please educate.

      More bushels....WHY????? our current infrastructure can not handle more bushels....

      Just imagine where our system would be IF we had regular movement of pulses....add another 5mmt to the system between August and december ....its ****ing retarded how the railways have had their ass saved by lower movements required due to the pulse tariffs....and lower production....

      Anyway back to the Seed Tax ...there is no good reason for this....bigger crops and better quality?????...its a ****ing joke....no one is buying quality or paying for it.....and volumes are not that great either...


      If governments can find money for a geo thermal well at 26 million....they can ****ing well find the money for public research...

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        #4
        Originally posted by seldomseen View Post
        42 red spring wheat varieties in the Sask seed guide. Almost the very same so no variety gets many acres. If the seed industry can’t make money they can only blame themselves for all the duplication.

        Maybe the seed industry needs to tighten their belts the same way farmers have had to...

        Maybe the research scientists should get second jobs....

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          #5
          Originally posted by bucket View Post
          More bushels....WHY????? our current infrastructure can not handle more bushels....

          If governments can find money for a geo thermal well at 26 million....they can ****ing well find the money for public research...
          Need a seed supercluster. What ever a supercluster is.

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            #6
            Releases should be limited to a maximum of two varieties, per market class.

            Deregistration of varieties should only be allowed if those varieties are unsafe and unfit for consumption.

            Let the competition begin.

            If the adoption of either of the 2 varieties proves to be ineffective, or inefficient, or unprofitable for what ever reason let the grower markets decide, regionally, geographically, provincially etc

            I’m tired of the flood the market, change the name, confuse the grower, marketing campaigns that are ongoing year over year

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              #7
              Originally posted by ajl View Post
              Need a seed supercluster. What ever a supercluster is.
              The correct term is....SUPERCLUSTER****.....

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                #8
                If only we had a law like other nations... A new variety needs to be 7 or 10% better in yield, or protein, or have a novel trait, or otherwise be unique in order to be registered.

                Then, once registered, the only way a variety can be removed from market is if it is proven to cause harm to a market or the population, and only possible by an order from government.



                If only....


                Oh wait... once upon a time....

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                  #9
                  Going by the ag newspapers it looks like these seed companies have healthy net incomes going by their advertising budgets.
                  Some ads are actually support a seed tax by telling farmers they know what’s best for them.

                  Just trust the non-profit seed companies.
                  Last edited by Oliver88; Jan 28, 2019, 17:51.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Rareearth View Post
                    Releases should be limited to a maximum of two varieties, per market class.

                    Deregistration of varieties should only be allowed if those varieties are unsafe and unfit for consumption.

                    Let the competition begin.

                    If the adoption of either of the 2 varieties proves to be ineffective, or inefficient, or unprofitable for what ever reason let the grower markets decide, regionally, geographically, provincially etc

                    I’m tired of the flood the market, change the name, confuse the grower, marketing campaigns that are ongoing year over year
                    There should be an overseeing body for the deregistering of varieties....as long as a process takes to register a variety....

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                      #11
                      I saw the ad too. One of the questions they answered was "Is this concept being driven by big multinationals" to which of course the answer provided was "NO".

                      So why did Dow AgroSciences have a seat at the roundtable?

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                        #12
                        sickening the amount of advertising dollars spent on ag inputs in the mass media where maybe 1-2% of the audience is an actual farmer. ****3n morons. Has anyone bought an input because of an advertisement? I believe most buy based on local results from other farmers, seed grower recommendations, local agronomists, not some ad on winterpeg radio and tv, or ads painted in the ice at nationally televised curling matches.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Klause View Post
                          If only we had a law like other nations... A new variety needs to be 7 or 10% better in yield, or protein, or have a novel trait, or otherwise be unique in order to be registered.

                          Then, once registered, the only way a variety can be removed from market is if it is proven to cause harm to a market or the population, and only possible by an order from government.



                          If only....


                          Oh wait... once upon a time....
                          Klause your making to much sense, no way they can extort money from us that way.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by wiseguy
                            It's all a scam to steal from Farmers !

                            YUP.....100%.....the ****ing CGC has 130 million of farmers money and can't issue regular reports for grain delivered to ports....and some guys think we should build a trust fund for the seed companies without a say!!!!?????
                            Last edited by bucket; Jan 28, 2019, 20:43.

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                              #15
                              It’s a seed tax

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