Situation in Venezuela

[furrowtickler]

Getting to a boiling point
If things get right out of control what will the effects be on the oil market ? They have huge reserves.
Could it spill over into gold markets as well ?
Just curious because there are two hard lines being drawn and it could get ugly .
Sad for the average citizens that are being financially wiped out .. scary to watch the effects of certain governments on their own people .

[bucket]

Getting to a boiling point
If things get right out of control what will the effects be on the oil market ? They have huge reserves.
Could it spill over into gold markets as well ?
Just curious because there are two hard lines being drawn and it could get ugly .
Sad for the average citizens that are being financially wiped out .. scary to watch the effects of certain governments on their own people .

Canada could be isolated from shit like this but since we rely on foreign oil and everything has to have a world price ....if the oil price cranks up while we just reduced output by 325000 bpd because we can't move it. ....

How you say????....we be ****ed....

[Oliver88]

Socialism 101

[the big wheel]

Let's see a whole pile of oil money, being used to buy off people coupled with corruption and mismanagement and then the people had to pay for it all?

Where did the money go? What they need is a pst to get themselves back in order. You know where the crooks steal their money and the farmers and workers pay for it all.

[SASKFARMER3]

Saskatchewan under the NDP got us almost to this place. Ah, remember how it was.

[the big wheel]

A prime example of where basing your economy on one commodity oil is disastrous thinking. Us oil sanctions and low world prices are what killed the country besides things many of us won't know the truth about either due to the anti social spin propaganda also.

Yes the Ndp were stagnant and became way out of touch with the average person.
So we got the anything else bunch. And what happenned? Boom wow look at all this oil activity wow man wow and at that time working off the farm could still pay for the farm expenses or at least help a lot but in the mean time farmers lost sight of why they needed more and more off farm work? A few tidbits like farm taxes were thrown but slowly and rapidly more has been taken back by the anybody but Ndp crew. To the point now where we realize the Ndp were right more money needs to come from the oil otherwise we ll all pay for it all those meaning those not in the industry of oil. And no one has been looking after our farm concerns not even the so called checkoff and seed tax groups etc because they're full of people loyal to the commandants of rhe anything but Ndp crew. Yet the complaining and final recognizing that hey things aren't good here on the farm any more show up on this farm all the time. But guess what hasn't been an Ndp government for what decades?

[SASKFARMER3]

Big wheel every day you tell us how bad it is in Saskatchewan under the Sask party and I say the NDP was awful, Yes the Saskparty has been in for a long time but look to Alberta and that's what Sask would be under the NDP only worse. THen look to BC that's how you want it.

Your farm would be their farm and you would have to follow the rules of the Green NDP. All would be for city workers. etc.

Again explain how the NDP would be such a great fix for Saskatchewan I'm all ears.

Yes, parties do stupid stuff and yes brad and the boys did some really stupid stuff but look at the alternative, Ryan and the NDP. Wow, can you say with a straight face that would help us?

[bucket]

Blaming anything on the previous NDP government in Saskatchewan is like Trudeau blaming Harper everyday.....


History will be kind to the Calvert government .....Wall has to take responsibility for his lack of vision but he is/was a great talker...

There is no way with the resources we have that Saskatchewan should be in a financial mess.....there are exceptions of course ....like countries being forced off nuclear power....but then there is the uranium scam you don't hear much of....

Potash consolidation will hurt in time....etc...

And those abandoned oil wells .....


And the saskparty just said ...cheers....to the taxpayers ...while partying...

[the big wheel]

I agree the Ndp lost touch with agriculture. When we talk about who's good and who's bad I m on a farmer forum so I m speaking about what the sask party has meant for farming.

Crop insurance is worse and more expensive wasn't it supposed to be cheaper and better? We're we not promised grip to return?

Land taxes acre up for many reasons one is increased use by other industries oil and gas causing strain on rms so as a farmer I m paying again.

Has the sask party spoke up about seed taxes?

Pst on everything we buy hasn't helped me has it helped you? Do we not as farmers contribute a whack of money to rhat tax? Why do we have that tax? I don't want the toilet bowl stadium or rhe bypasses that don't make sense only to have a tax on it. Oil was supposed to pay for rhat.

Land rents for other farmers are higher than the private sector. That shouldn't be.
That's a deal broken no different than getting rid of grip a deal is a deal.

Livestock loan guarantee gone young neighbors just into cattle said they don't know what they will do now they need that program. Banks won't let them expand without it.

Have they said anything about abandoned rail lines and the movement of terminals that led to jncreased cost for us?

Input costs have they done anything about the cost of fertilizer which is way out of whack so are chemicals.

Gas tax?

Closed hospitals and destroyed roads at least where we are anyway. You die to get to the city and we arent that far. Can't imagine people that live further.

Input capital buddies is that a solution to the land price problem or a shitty crop insurance or too high of farm costs? And who are those people do you not know the story of who bought land and new rhe land was going to be opened up by new land rules?who made millions on that insider deal? And where it has led?

Are we not an agriculture based province? So why hasn't our ag department made attempts at trade deals etc? Why isn't there a global hub deal for agriculture?

Should I continue?

[the big wheel]

Manitoba has an ag financial lending program to expand ag ventures why not here?

[Horse]

Big wheel every day you tell us how bad it is in Saskatchewan under the Sask party and I say the NDP was awful, Yes the Saskparty has been in for a long time but look to Alberta and that's what Sask would be under the NDP only worse. THen look to BC that's how you want it.

Your farm would be their farm and you would have to follow the rules of the Green NDP. All would be for city workers. etc.

Again explain how the NDP would be such a great fix for Saskatchewan I'm all ears.

Yes, parties do stupid stuff and yes brad and the boys did some really stupid stuff but look at the alternative, Ryan and the NDP. Wow, can you say with a straight face that would help us?

You bitch and complain about the NDs all the time when you should be looking at what your chosen party is doing,quit turning a blind eye and ask what in hell they are doing,I dont know much about sask politics but by what I read on here its no different than anywhere else.
As for the NDs in alta tell what they have done that is so bad,most of the crap I see was in place when the cons left,and I may add ,with a smokeing trail from the paper shredders,please enlighten me as you seem to know all??

[jimmy]

I agree the Ndp lost touch with agriculture. When we talk about who's good and who's bad I m on a farmer forum so I m speaking about what the sask party has meant for farming.

Crop insurance is worse and more expensive wasn't it supposed to be cheaper and better? We're we not promised grip to return?

Land taxes acre up for many reasons one is increased use by other industries oil and gas causing strain on rms so as a farmer I m paying again.

Has the sask party spoke up about seed taxes?

Pst on everything we buy hasn't helped me has it helped you? Do we not as farmers contribute a whack of money to rhat tax? Why do we have that tax? I don't want the toilet bowl stadium or rhe bypasses that don't make sense only to have a tax on it. Oil was supposed to pay for rhat.

Land rents for other farmers are higher than the private sector. That shouldn't be.
That's a deal broken no different than getting rid of grip a deal is a deal.

Livestock loan guarantee gone young neighbors just into cattle said they don't know what they will do now they need that program. Banks won't let them expand without it.

Have they said anything about abandoned rail lines and the movement of terminals that led to jncreased cost for us?

Input costs have they done anything about the cost of fertilizer which is way out of whack so are chemicals.

Gas tax?

Closed hospitals and destroyed roads at least where we are anyway. You die to get to the city and we arent that far. Can't imagine people that live further.

Input capital buddies is that a solution to the land price problem or a shitty crop insurance or too high of farm costs? And who are those people do you not know the story of who bought land and new rhe land was going to be opened up by new land rules?who made millions on that insider deal? And where it has led?

Are we not an agriculture based province? So why hasn't our ag department made attempts at trade deals etc? Why isn't there a global hub deal for agriculture?

Should I continue?

If the ndp where still in power there would be no roads. If I remember right they where the ones that moved everything from small town to the cities. One of the past Ndp leaders ended up being the largest land holders in Saskatchewan hmm I wonder how that happened.

[furrowtickler]

If the ndp where still in power there would be no roads. If I remember right they where the ones that moved everything from small town to the cities. One of the past Ndp leaders ended up being the largest land holders in Saskatchewan hmm I wonder how that happened.

Well that could be , but there are some very large farms in Ole Billy Boys area as well ... just sayin .
There are to many in politics that pad their own pockets and their buddies in every party I have ever seen .

What going on in Venezuela used to be an extreme example of this , but it is all too common now unfortunately .

[SASKFARMER3]

The ndp ran Sask like the mafia.

Yes I lived here and worked.

It was perfect if you believed the manifesto and followed it.

The ones in charge became wealthy.

Kept and wanted the population low.

They hated rural

Loved unions.

Oh it was so good!

Ha ha ha

[the big wheel]

Well that could be , but there are some very large farms in Ole Billy Boys area as well ... just sayin .
There are to many in politics that pad their own pockets and their buddies in every party I have ever seen .

What going on in Venezuela used to be an extreme example of this , but it is all too common now unfortunately .

And that's all I m pointing out. To say one or the other is so much better is laughable.