Class 1 Driver's Lic

[Guest]

You need to take a reality pill. Are you going to clear cut all of western Canada? Take the trees out and the house or the shop or the barn or the parked 4WD will still be blocking somebody's vision from some direction. Where do you plan to stop?

Here's a big hint about where to stop ---- at the red octagon with STOP written across it's face.

If Mr. Sing had done that we wouldn't be having this conversation. The only reason that intersection is under the spotlight is because somebody didn't stop at the stop sign. There's a million more intersections in western North America. Maybe we should put traffic lights up at all of them. Or do like the Mexicans and put a dude with white gloves in the middle of each one.

The spectacular feature of common sense is how incredibly UNcommon it actually is.

wastin your breath bob , some don't get reality or common sense any more

[farmaholic]

A buddy contacted me today about this thread. We discussed it a bit and after all I've posted here and after the short discussion with him....I also do believe, ultimately, it is really a "moving traffic" violation at the heart of it all. But that doesn't take away from the fact there are some other issues that need to be addressed that are becoming problematic, many of which were brought up in this thread.

[Horse]

Bob and caseih, I take it you dont believe in defensive driving, and if you cant see the intersection clearly because of trees do you have to come to a stop just incase the other guy dont, I just hate those blind intersections where you have to get to the middle of the road to see what may be coming, and yes noone should park equipment where it will block vision,,COMON SENCE.

[wd9]

Isn't the actual problem certain "individuals" giving away class 1's instead of testing properly?

[sumdumguy]

Bob and caseih, I take it you dont believe in defensive driving, and if you cant see the intersection clearly because of trees do you have to come to a stop just incase the other guy dont, I just hate those blind intersections where you have to get to the middle of the road to see what may be coming, and yes noone should park equipment where it will block vision,,COMON SENCE.

Most of us know that in the country, if you don’t drive defensively and check every intersection before approaching it, we are risking our lives for nothing as all of us can attest to. Common Sense goes a long way.

[the big wheel]

wastin your breath bob , some don't get reality or common sense any more

You can add the words respect and decency to that sentence.

If the trees weren’t there those people likely are alive. That’s a fact stated by professionals that studied the incident.

It will happen again there at that exact intersection

Case you ve been watching your perverted ***** idol trump too much. Just because you say there are hundreds of intersections doesn’t mean that it’s true but maybe in your little mind it is.

I found an online map of that area it’s a bit older but is it not true that there is one main road north running east west to Nipawin then this one then another east west to tisdale? So very few crossroads of highway in that area.
At that particular intersection there is traffic to cargill as well as something across the road west not sure what that is. Also traffic of course supplying Nipawin and tisdale from the east carrot river and those smaller towns. The peat moss and lumber mill. Lots of traffic few crossroads
No wonder there has been many accidents there many obviously not resulted in death but some others have as there are older crosses there aren’t there? Those trees have been argued about in the past haven’t they? So what’s up is it your relatives or friends live there with those trees? On council? Or worried highways would I be responsible which in my mind they might not be legally liable but morally disgraced.

So we re not taking about hundreds of roads where trees are an issue are we?

Off the grid roads those out of area semis aren’t supposed to be on them are they?

There will be another accident there hopefully if it happens it won’t be to anyone that thinks the trees should be gone but let it be if it is someone’s family that wants to so ignorantly not see part of the problem is the trees.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

The issue of trees blocking an intersection is a big one for us. To get to our road from the west, which is the most common direction we travel, requires turning left across oncoming traffic on a curve completely blind due to trees. Neighbor wrote off his brand new company truck doing so, last winter I had to abort my attempted turn in front of a vac truck on glare ice, just missed him, but ended up facing the wrong way in the grader bank. Many many more close calls. I ensure the county is aware, and remind them regularly, and even propose a cheap solution. But nothing gets done.

Negotiating this corner with farm machinery or big trucks requires a spotter to block traffic.

[Sodbuster]

I thought this particular intersection also had a flashing red light, if It did how could any driver possibly miss that.

[jimmy]

So what are we going to do when this happens again? And it will, we could cut down ever tree move every obstacle and it will still happen. It’s plain and simple if you blow through a stop sign or red light shit is going to happen. This punishing everyone for a mistake done by one idiot isn’t the answer. I thought this is why we have laws and penalties for breaking them. Instead we are going down the road of one guy screws up and everybody pays the penalty.

[TOM4CWB]

So what are we going to do when this happens again? And it will, we could cut down ever tree move every obstacle and it will still happen. It’s plain and simple if you blow through a stop sign or red light shit is going to happen. This punishing everyone for a mistake done by one idiot isn’t the answer. I thought this is why we have laws and penalties for breaking them. Instead we are going down the road of one guy screws up and everybody pays the penalty.

How much time... would be lost... if the through traffic slows down to 50km/hr... or at restricted sight intersections... A 4 WAY STOP. There were 101 ways these deaths could have been prevented.



Obeying traffic signs... properly designed intersections... 4 lane highways... with major cross traffic... have speed reductions and hung orange/Red overhead lights in the middle of the intersections on 4 lane divided highways in most places in SK... with speed reductions NOW. Why did't this standard apply HERE... at this death trap intersection?. NO COMMON SENSE caused this accident. Regulations... do not stop people from breaking laws... or using brain/being alert/ applying Common Sense...
If other people have been killed at this intersection BEFORE... IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A 4 way complete stop intersection.

SK Engineers... who approved this intersection as ... SAFE... should go to jail as well!!!

To make the drivers the scape goats... STINKS.

A good big legal action.. for $100,000,000.00 against the engineers who oversee these area intersections... would sure as a PUBLIC shooting... fix these death trap intersections...for good... so NO MORE people DIE!!!

NOT 125 hrs of studying... STOP signs?.... @ $ 150.00/hr...!!!!
HOW STUPID IS THIS...???!!!!

A good 'Class 1 vehicle' simulator testing unit... like used for aircraft testing/training... [Westcan has/uses them] would have been a much better/smarter use of funds... to make better drivers and safety a priority on our roads... to actually make them safer.
AS IT IS... now... nothing is much safer... more people will die... the carnage and death on our roads will not decrease significantly.

What a tribute to all who so far... died in vain... as far as a liberal application of common sense is concerned!

THIS situation...SHOULD BOTHER... E V E R Y O N E. My Spirit is grieved.