Highway safety... and Class 1 Vehicles

[furrowtickler]

I guess... if safe passage on our roads... is not needed... and you are willing to risk our lives for the need of good governance and safer roads... common sense tells me... good stewardship and public policy ... for our public roads... is a basic need for our communities... the financial ruin... part can be debated for ever... while good people continue die in vain.

Safe roads are a need... not a want.

So are safe drivers .

[TOM4CWB]

Tom there should be no headons on four lane highways but in my area there has been two in the last few years causing four deaths. You can’t fix stupid.

Jimmy;
Are all accidents preventable?

Perhaps if we can use hindsight!

'Stupid' accidents happen too often with aircraft too!

Watch 'Mayday' about these crazy situations!

I have seen faulty investigations with conclusions that defy physics ... one recommendation and analysis on tie down requirements of heavy equipment in a cargo aircraft... defied gravity and common sense.

Exposure of accident causes... and engineering deficiencies... should be mandatory... like WCB accident reports should be required reading for everyone who needs a safe work place.

We are smart if we learn from accidents... and critically analyze the solutions ... not just say it was stupid and is unpreventable going forward.

[sumdumguy]

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And why should hauling on a few miles from home base make any difference as to how much damage a loaded semi can do if not operated properly???

We have many licensed vehicles that never leave the farm yard and many that don’t go further than twenty miles from field to field and to the elevator. I guarantee the risk of them colliding with another vehicle is almost nil compared to a truck putting on 20,000-50,000 miles a year, highway and city driving. For one, there isn’t another vehicle to collide with around here. I know I am going to get an argument for arguments sake but the risk is minimal and ...

“Yes, I believe farmers should have an exemption for this very reason”.

[TOM4CWB]

So are safe drivers .

How were farmer drivers a part of the truck hockey bus disaster? This was not a farm truck!

What is the safety record of farm equipment drivers vs highway trucking operations? Very Rare farm equipment accidents involving other vehicles...on public roads...indeed!

[foragefarmer]

Tom4$$$$4Tom

" Very Rare farm equipment accidents involving other vehicles...on public roads...indeed! "

Do a little googling before pulling such a statement out of your ass and posting it.

"National statistics recently complied by the Canadian Agricultural Safety Association show collisions between motor vehicles and farm equipment killed more than 150 people since the early 1990s. This study only tracked fatalities. The number of accidents is much higher."

Also remember the majority of heavy farm equipment is only moving five month of a year compared to other industries.

God Bless you!

[binthere]

I guess... if safe passage on our roads... is not needed... and you are willing to risk our lives for the need of good governance and safer roads... common sense tells me... good stewardship and public policy ... for our public roads... is a basic need for our communities... the financial ruin... part can be debated for ever... while good people continue die in vain.

Safe roads are a need... not a want.

Have you ever driven a motor cycle other than a dirt bike on a desolate country road? If not buy a cruiser hop on put on half a million kms and you will soon learn the skill of D.Y.O.D.D. if not you will soon realise no sign street light over pass on or off ramps or solid double yellow lines are full proof.

[the big wheel]

Tom4$$$$4Tom

" Very Rare farm equipment accidents involving other vehicles...on public roads...indeed! "

Do a little googling before pulling such a statement out of your ass and posting it.

"National statistics recently complied by the Canadian Agricultural Safety Association show collisions between motor vehicles and farm equipment killed more than 150 people since the early 1990s. This study only tracked fatalities. The number of accidents is much higher."

Also remember the majority of heavy farm equipment is only moving five month of a year compared to other industries.

God Bless you!

The accidents I know of it wasn’t the farmers fault impatient drivers pulling out to pass or cutting off a farmer turning is where the accidents occur. Not a lot a farmer does wrong going 20 km down the road. There needs maybe to be more awareness by the public as to patience and right if way to farm equipment. Class 1 training does nothing for this part.

Tom has a point also about challenging the test if you are cape able you shouldn’t have to spend 125 hours training.
Perhaps mandate that you sign up with training school and you can challenge it there if the instructor feels your ready you can then take the test at the gov test place if not brush up on what is required.
Really the 125 hours is only better for the green horns and usually they will need maybe even more than that. The more I think about it the more maybe it should be when the trainer feels you are ready. Training and licensing should not be at the same facility to avoid corruption and free passes.

[GDR]

Tom4$$$$4Tom

" Very Rare farm equipment accidents involving other vehicles...on public roads...indeed! "

Do a little googling before pulling such a statement out of your ass and posting it.

"National statistics recently complied by the Canadian Agricultural Safety Association show collisions between motor vehicles and farm equipment killed more than 150 people since the early 1990s. This study only tracked fatalities. The number of accidents is much higher."

Also remember the majority of heavy farm equipment is only moving five month of a year compared to other industries.

God Bless you!

Whats the point of googling if you can't even figure out what you find, look what you posted. 150 deaths in almost 30years. So 5 deaths a year caused by farm equipment! In a country of 36 million people you don't think that is minimal compared to deaths caused by highway trucks in a year? And besides my assumption would be that those stats are not based on fault either.

Although tragic, accidents are going to happen, thats kinda how come they invented the word!

Insurance premium for your farm use semi is about a 10th of the cost for the same rig used commercially, maybe even less. Actuaries use past loss ratios to calculate premiums, that right there is about the best indication of frequency of farm accidents vs commercial.

[foragefarmer]

GDR + Wheels

As a farmer I have witness farmers moving equipment at dusk when the sunlight is in your eyes not having proper flashers on or having a pickup with it's four ways flashing following the farm equipment.

Take your farmer' hat off and realize this is an issue that we all know happens, which will result in stricter regulations if more common sense is used. Pointing figures at the motorists won't win this battle in the end.

[the big wheel]

GDR + Wheels

As a farmer I have witness farmers moving equipment at dusk when the sunlight is in your eyes not having proper flashers on or having a pickup with it's four ways flashing following the farm equipment.

Take your farmer' hat off and realize this is an issue that we all know happens, which will result in stricter regulations if more common sense is used. Pointing figures at the motorists won't win this battle in the end.

For something like that 1000 dollar fine advertise it everywhere for someone not lit up properly, don’t need 125 hours to figure out put some bulbs in or fix the wiring