LMFAO.....this one is for Hobbyfrmr

[AlbertaFarmer5]

ORGANIC farmers bank all their profits, they aren't slaves to the Ag Industry....ChemCos FertCos MachineryCos, VehicleCos. I doesn't have to look good from the road to be really profitable. Some of the poorest "looking" operations are as profitable, or more, than the high flying BTOs.

We are getting left behind in the farm size trend, maybe it's time to shift gears and do something different with these owned acres.

Hobbyeth doth protesteth to mucheth....

and as I've pointed out before, my thinks the Farmaholic doth protesteth too much about the the slum of the Ghetto as well. I'm beginning to suspect that an organic farm in the slum of the ghetto, may just be the holy grail, and best kept secret in the industry.

INterestingly, I see AFSC yield (alberta crop insurance magazine which gives yields for all varieties and crop areas, now shows a few organic yields. These are for the whole province, must not be enough data to break it down by region, they protect individuals data by not printing specific yields if the sample size is small enough to possibly identify the specific producer.
Oats 87% of conventional
Peas 46%
Wheat 58%

Mostly useless though, since all those organic acres could have been in the lowest yielding droughted area of the province, or could have been in the garden of Eden. And the sample size is inconsequential.

After 2 years of organic crop insurance being available, it looks like it has not been well received, perhaps that tells us all we need to know, organic producers are so successful and profitable, without crop failures, so no need to insure? Or is it just that to start from scratch with organic crop insurance, they take the already pitifully low yields, and cut them in half until you build your own yeild history( I did inquire)?

[Sheepwheat]

Organic farming looks like a lifestyle to me. The comment about machinery is interesting. The organic guys I know, tend to be less caring to have fancy, they bank their money and are inherently cheap. IMO, it is mainly that they have a completely different view on what matters most in life. For them, machinery isn’t one of the life goals. Hard for machinery lovers to gather, I get that. Lol

[farmaholic]

AF5, if you never grew up farming in the Slum of the Ghetto, you'd never come here to farm. And I don't know any better so I stay here....with my low expectations, being met more often than not! Maybe that's the perfect "organic" attitude, lol.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

AF5, if you never grew up farming in the Slum of the Ghetto, you'd never come here to farm. And I don't know any better so I stay here....with my low expectations, being met more often than not! Maybe that's the perfect "organic" attitude, lol.

Yet another attempt to dissuade us from moving to your land of milk and honey.

[farmaholic]

Yet another attempt to dissuade us from moving to your land of milk and honey.

Nah, more like sour skim milk and bitters. Or the land of sand and wind. Or the land of hardship and poverty.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Nah, more like sour skim milk and bitters. Or the land of sand and wind. Or the land of hardship and poverty.

I get the impression that if we could trade climates and keep our soils, or trade soils and keep our climates, we would each be happy.

[farmaholic]

Before starting a farming career in the Slum of the Ghetto:



After a lifetime of farming in the Slum of the Ghetto:

[hobbyfrmr]

Before starting a farming career in the Slum of the Ghetto:



After a lifetime of farming in the Slum of the Ghetto:

Whoa!! Tough gig.🙂 You may not look like that but I consider that may be your sentiment towards the industry after a coupe of decades.
I really dont have much regard for the retail industry.

[pourfarmer]

Think about it. There can not be that much money in it. When is the last time you saw an organic farm with any kind of decent machinery in the yard? Any new cars/trucks? Are there any signs of progress on those farms or is it just a holding pattern until a neighbor finally just stops in for coffee and buys him out for discounted price?
It all sounds good until you harvest your first half a crop.

“everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth”. - Iron Mike Tyson

It seems like most large successful farms operate on cash flow.

The problem when you switch to organic, is the cash flow stream you're use to, kind of just dries right up.

Your farm motto becomes: use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.

I can't imagine successfully farming 5000+ acres using that motto.

[checking]

$12.00/bushel is too light for the $13.25 conventional that is available, but if you really have to have farma's organic value, then you need to get into laundering. Not the linen part, but the conventional part that involves moving of your flax to Kazakhstan. Poorfarmer left that part out of his cash flow chart. If you can't believe me, then just tack it onto one of the pfffffs' posts.

[burnt]

Before starting a farming career in the Slum of the Ghetto:



After a lifetime of farming in the Slum of the Ghetto:

"What's it got in it's pocketses? It's got my Precioussss, my Preciousss. It's got gold and my Preciousss because it was prowling around farming in the Slum if the Ghetto and it got my Preciousssss! Nasssty little trickssster!

Yesss it doesss, it's found my Precioussss! Jussst becausse it found the Ssslum of the Ghetto."

(Gold added to fit the context)

[pourfarmer]

$12.00/bushel is too light for the $13.25 conventional that is available, but if you really have to have farma's organic value, then you need to get into laundering. Not the linen part, but the conventional part that involves moving of your flax to Kazakhstan. Poorfarmer left that part out of his cash flow chart. If you can't believe me, then just tack it onto one of the pfffffs' posts.

If a guy lacks morals and integrity, I suspect there is much easier ways to make a buck.