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    #13
    Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
    Trump may be a genious but not a genius. Trump has the ability of a 10 yr old and the temperament to prove it. North Korea is playing Trump to get sanctions lifted.

    I feel sorry for people who cant see the new world paradigm taking shape lead by trump. Let the guy try. He has done more in a year than the last 3 presidents did in 20. Notice missiles aren't flying overhead any more? That's a win right there. Let him work the details and park your TDS for a while, unless you would rather have AOC try. She could give Kim 10 trillion dollars for climate change.

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      #14
      grasshat, nobody wanted to fight in JFK-LBJ Vietnam War

      in 1961 Kennedy had 11,000 troops there
      in 1962 Kennedy had 16,000 troops there
      in December 1964 Johnson had 23,000 troops there
      in March 1965 Johnson had 36,000 troops there
      in June 1965 Johnson had 82,000 troops there
      in October 1965 Johnson had >200,000 troops there
      in December 1966 Johnson had 330,000 troops there
      in April 1967 Johnson had >400,000 troops there
      in July 1967 Johnson had 525,000 troops there
      in January 1968 Johnson wanted another 22,000 troops there
      in March 1968 Johnson announced an end to bombing and that he wouldn't stand for re-election

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        #15
        The arms industry got their lobby efforts/payback with a multi billion$$$ profitable WAR...young men were sacrificed for $$$ and USA still lost the war.

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          #16
          I wonder if the USA gets involved in Venezuela? Wouldn’t doubt there are some “assets” there already but on the outside it looks like they’re letting this one play out on its own. Russians judging by RT are supporting Maduro.

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            #17
            Originally posted by jazz View Post
            I feel sorry for people who cant see the new world paradigm taking shape lead by trump. Let the guy try. He has done more in a year than the last 3 presidents did in 20. Notice missiles aren't flying overhead any more? That's a win right there.....
            There were missiles flying overhead? in Saskatchewan? Canada? North America? I must have missed those incidents. A new world paradigm led by Trump LOL - is it being shaped after him? - the "racist, con man and crook" as the testimony is confirming.

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              #18
              Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
              There were missiles flying overhead? in Saskatchewan? Canada? North America? I must have missed those incidents. A new world paradigm led by Trump LOL - is it being shaped after him? - the "racist, con man and crook" as the testimony is confirming.
              No, no, no, grassfarmer. No missiles over head here.

              That was when crooked Hilary was on the front lines dodging them "INCOMING" ones...

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                #19
                I bet grass has never been to asia or even knows an Asian person. If he did, he would know what saving face means. Trump is trying to give NK a respectable off ramp where they can back away from the cliffs edge without looking weak and charting another course for his country. You don't go into someones back yard and take a sh*t like the dems all want him to do. That's not going to solve this issue. Having the meeting in Vietnam is especially strategic.

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                  #20
                  Spent some time in Vietnam actually - how about you?
                  Oh the naivety of thinking "Trump the genius" is going to overturn the NK regime. They are obviously playing him to get an easing of sanctions. You don't run a regime like that for 70 years and then give it up for nothing. Remember the talk of peace prizes at the time of the first meeting but it quickly evaporated after as NK made zero changes. Serves as a distraction from the Cohen testimony though.

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                    #21
                    Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
                    Spent some time in Vietnam actually - how about you?
                    Oh the naivety of thinking "Trump the genius" is going to overturn the NK regime. They are obviously playing him to get an easing of sanctions. You don't run a regime like that for 70 years and then give it up for nothing. Remember the talk of peace prizes at the time of the first meeting but it quickly evaporated after as NK made zero changes. Serves as a distraction from the Cohen testimony though.
                    I guess time will tell but wtf did obama acclomplish?

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                      #22
                      Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
                      Spent some time in Vietnam actually - how about you?
                      Oh the naivety of thinking "Trump the genius" is going to overturn the NK regime. They are obviously playing him to get an easing of sanctions. You don't run a regime like that for 70 years and then give it up for nothing. Remember the talk of peace prizes at the time of the first meeting but it quickly evaporated after as NK made zero changes. Serves as a distraction from the Cohen testimony though.

                      Married in so I think I have a perspective that you don't.


                      No regime lasts forever and kim can see his cant continue on either. its broke, malnourished and there is no successor except him for the foreseeable future. He has to make a deal and trump knows that.

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                        #23
                        Obama stopped N. Korea from testing for 6 of his 8 years in office , better than Trump. N.Korea has a history of stopping testing for several years. Trump has accomplished nothing but pandering to a monster.

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                          #24
                          Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
                          Obama stopped N. Korea from testing for 6 of his 8 years in office , better than Trump. N.Korea has a history of stopping testing for several years. Trump has accomplished nothing but pandering to a monster.

                          Yeah in that time they perfected nuclear technology to mount on them. That's on Obama, not Trump. trump is trying to put toothpaste back in the tube after successive failures and he has done a good job so far. Let him finish.

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