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    #25
    Trump has made things worse by inflating Kim. They will never give up their nukes. It is all a reality show. Boo hoo no Peace Prize!!

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      #26
      And your hero Obama gave who 150 billion

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        #27
        Trump believes Kim did not know of Warmbiers mistreatment. What a moron . Believes Kim and Putin. Liars all.

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          #28
          Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
          Trump believes Kim did not know of Warmbiers mistreatment. What a moron . Believes Kim and Putin. Liars all.
          Do you think coming to the table is a good thing/bad thing? What would your angle of attack be? Why could no one else get even started? In my opinion having these meeting's even with little to no results is good. It puts people face to face. No one wins in a war that result from even a mistake being made at the DMZ. Put the bullshit aside and hope for progress. If a war broke out tonight do you think don lemon and chris Cuomo would be heading over to fight. No they would report on your kids being killed in a battle.

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            #29
            Sf3 the money was was Iran's inthe first place.
            It was not a gift.
            They were assets seized and held by the USA
            Signing the treaty ,freed the assets back to Iran.
            Misrepresent it all you want.
            Maybe somebody will believe it

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              #30
              As for economic activity.
              I am amazed it has lasted as long as it did.
              The beginning ofthe end was the oil price drop before the NDP
              Was elected in Alberta.
              Does anybody think all the building boom of low interest was
              Going to go on forever.
              We would be like China with new empty cities.
              When building and construction
              Falls off.
              That is the time for govt
              Infrastructure. Railways and pipelines.
              Either that or you better open up imagration to get people to fill those condos

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                #31
                Originally posted by sk_wheatking View Post
                Do you think coming to the table is a good thing/bad thing?
                A good thing. You've got to try but at the same time there has to be some realism. Dictators never give up willingly, doubly so with an extreme lunatic regime like NK. I reckon Lil' Kim thought he had a chance with Orange given how dumb he appears to be - probably thought hinting at a chance to build a Trump tower in Pyongyang would get sanctions lifted. Next move will be offering hookers and the tower deal.

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                  #32
                  Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
                  A good thing. You've got to try but at the same time there has to be some realism. Dictators never give up willingly, doubly so with an extreme lunatic regime like NK. I reckon Lil' Kim thought he had a chance with Orange given how dumb he appears to be - probably thought hinting at a chance to build a Trump tower in Pyongyang would get sanctions lifted. Next move will be offering hookers and the tower deal.
                  I get you dont like him but you have to give him credit. He was able to do what no one else could or was willing to do which was gamble on these high level meetings.

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                    #33
                    Originally posted by sk_wheatking View Post
                    I get you dont like him but you have to give him credit. He was able to do what no one else could or was willing to do which was gamble on these high level meetings.
                    Maybe you are unaware of the long history of US/NK nuclear missile diplomacy? Trump is not the first to go down this road by any stretch of imagination. The initiative to meet this time came from NK not Trump.

                    http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/dprkchron http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/dprkchron

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                      #34
                      A meeting of dumb and dumber. Clearly Kim
                      Is dumb as he has had more time to build his weapons he’s gotten the leader of the free world to legitimize his actions against his people and bolstered his stature amongst world leaders even calling dumb a great person.
                      Dumbers own people have all along said that dumb is still building his nukes.
                      The greatest negotiator of all time is being played by a halfwit.
                      Last edited by the big wheel; Mar 1, 2019, 02:37.

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                        #35
                        Wheel you don't understand international diplomacy one single bit. You just act like you are watching a game show or something. The dealings are behind the scenes. Kimmy is probably speed dialing Trump right now. I am sure the US has leveled a warning to that whole area that if any nuke gets out of there, NK is stone age the next minute and probably china with it.

                        NK missles are not a threat to the US. They have been show to break up on re entry and no proof they can hold a miniaturized nuke or even reach the US. The missile tests are a message - we want to talk, look at us. So trump decided to talk. Why the hell not. Even if it doesn't amount to a slam bang agreement, no shots are being fired and that's a win right there. Going to take some time to bring them out of their shell if its possible. But their window is quickly closing.

                        So you don't want our leaders to take personal risks for our safety? You would rather wish them to fail and mock them for trying? That's sad. Strange world you inhabit.

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                          #36
                          Originally posted by jazz View Post
                          Wheel you don't understand international diplomacy one single bit. You just act like you are watching a game show or something. The dealings are behind the scenes. Kimmy is probably speed dialing Trump right now. I am sure the US has leveled a warning to that whole area that if any nuke gets out of there, NK is stone age the next minute and probably china with it.

                          NK missles are not a threat to the US. They have been show to break up on re entry and no proof they can hold a miniaturized nuke or even reach the US. The missile tests are a message - we want to talk, look at us. So trump decided to talk. Why the hell not. Even if it doesn't amount to a slam bang agreement, no shots are being fired and that's a win right there. Going to take some time to bring them out of their shell if its possible. But their window is quickly closing.

                          So you don't want our leaders to take personal risks for our safety? You would rather wish them to fail and mock them for trying? That's sad. Strange world you inhabit.
                          Every other president has done behind the scenes diplomacy with North Korea. Don’t bother trying to say trump is doing anything new on that front. What is new is he’s been given time to develop without any scrutiny and less oversight. He doesn’t need to fire anything right now he tested now they need time to fix it better.

                          As far as not getting to the USA no one can say that for sure. With less scrutiny who knows what they’re getting from other countries like say Russia black market.

                          Unreal to think a president would ever say to the world that someone that slaughters their own people is a good guy.

                          This has all made it more difficult to remove him from within. What incentive is there for the people of nk to take him out if the USA thinks he s a swell guy?

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