Trump and Kim

[grassfarmer]

Do you think coming to the table is a good thing/bad thing?

A good thing. You've got to try but at the same time there has to be some realism. Dictators never give up willingly, doubly so with an extreme lunatic regime like NK. I reckon Lil' Kim thought he had a chance with Orange given how dumb he appears to be - probably thought hinting at a chance to build a Trump tower in Pyongyang would get sanctions lifted. Next move will be offering hookers and the tower deal.

[sk_wheatking]

A good thing. You've got to try but at the same time there has to be some realism. Dictators never give up willingly, doubly so with an extreme lunatic regime like NK. I reckon Lil' Kim thought he had a chance with Orange given how dumb he appears to be - probably thought hinting at a chance to build a Trump tower in Pyongyang would get sanctions lifted. Next move will be offering hookers and the tower deal.

I get you dont like him but you have to give him credit. He was able to do what no one else could or was willing to do which was gamble on these high level meetings.

[grassfarmer]

I get you dont like him but you have to give him credit. He was able to do what no one else could or was willing to do which was gamble on these high level meetings.

Maybe you are unaware of the long history of US/NK nuclear missile diplomacy? Trump is not the first to go down this road by any stretch of imagination. The initiative to meet this time came from NK not Trump.

http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/dprkchron http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/dprkchron

[the big wheel]

A meeting of dumb and dumber. Clearly Kim
Is dumb as he has had more time to build his weapons he’s gotten the leader of the free world to legitimize his actions against his people and bolstered his stature amongst world leaders even calling dumb a great person.
Dumbers own people have all along said that dumb is still building his nukes.
The greatest negotiator of all time is being played by a halfwit.

[jazz]

Wheel you don't understand international diplomacy one single bit. You just act like you are watching a game show or something. The dealings are behind the scenes. Kimmy is probably speed dialing Trump right now. I am sure the US has leveled a warning to that whole area that if any nuke gets out of there, NK is stone age the next minute and probably china with it.

NK missles are not a threat to the US. They have been show to break up on re entry and no proof they can hold a miniaturized nuke or even reach the US. The missile tests are a message - we want to talk, look at us. So trump decided to talk. Why the hell not. Even if it doesn't amount to a slam bang agreement, no shots are being fired and that's a win right there. Going to take some time to bring them out of their shell if its possible. But their window is quickly closing.

So you don't want our leaders to take personal risks for our safety? You would rather wish them to fail and mock them for trying? That's sad. Strange world you inhabit.

[the big wheel]

Wheel you don't understand international diplomacy one single bit. You just act like you are watching a game show or something. The dealings are behind the scenes. Kimmy is probably speed dialing Trump right now. I am sure the US has leveled a warning to that whole area that if any nuke gets out of there, NK is stone age the next minute and probably china with it.

NK missles are not a threat to the US. They have been show to break up on re entry and no proof they can hold a miniaturized nuke or even reach the US. The missile tests are a message - we want to talk, look at us. So trump decided to talk. Why the hell not. Even if it doesn't amount to a slam bang agreement, no shots are being fired and that's a win right there. Going to take some time to bring them out of their shell if its possible. But their window is quickly closing.

So you don't want our leaders to take personal risks for our safety? You would rather wish them to fail and mock them for trying? That's sad. Strange world you inhabit.

Every other president has done behind the scenes diplomacy with North Korea. Don’t bother trying to say trump is doing anything new on that front. What is new is he’s been given time to develop without any scrutiny and less oversight. He doesn’t need to fire anything right now he tested now they need time to fix it better.

As far as not getting to the USA no one can say that for sure. With less scrutiny who knows what they’re getting from other countries like say Russia black market.

Unreal to think a president would ever say to the world that someone that slaughters their own people is a good guy.

This has all made it more difficult to remove him from within. What incentive is there for the people of nk to take him out if the USA thinks he s a swell guy?

[Guest]

Every other president has done behind the scenes diplomacy with North Korea. Don’t bother trying to say trump is doing anything new on that front. What is new is he’s been given time to develop without any scrutiny and less oversight. He doesn’t need to fire anything right now he tested now they need time to fix it better.

As far as not getting to the USA no one can say that for sure. With less scrutiny who knows what they’re getting from other countries like say Russia black market.

Unreal to think a president would ever say to the world that someone that slaughters their own people is a good guy.

This has all made it more difficult to remove him from within. What incentive is there for the people of nk to take him out if the USA thinks he s a swell guy?

Ummm, trudeau said castro was his hero , that was cool though, right ??
Might wanna read some history on cuba

[the big wheel]

Ummm, trudeau said castro was his hero , that was cool though, right ??
Might wanna read some history on cuba

Truduea was a retard so what’s your point?

[farmaholic]

Ummm, trudeau said castro was his hero , that was cool though, right ??
Might wanna read some history on cuba

Trudeau has irreparable irreversible brain damage, that can be his defense for life.

[the big wheel]

Ummm, trudeau said castro was his hero , that was cool though, right ??
Might wanna read some history on cuba

Or are you saying the retarded truduough is just like trump? Sorry yes your correct they’re acting the same.

[jazz]

You don't get it wheel you really don't.

Kim is the 3rd generation of this regime and his hold is more tenuous than the leaders before him. He knows that, trump knows that. That's why there is a window now. And former presidents have gone in with political agendas. trump is the first I have seen to combine it with an economic one with a vision for NK and at the same time taming china. His approach is truly unique. And yes that does require placating the leader a bit. That's harmless rhetoric. So what. If it makes kimmy more receptive to US overtures why not. Sorry you are so offended. Find a safe space. Until then, let pragmatists deal with the world as it is.

[Guest]

You don't get it wheel you really don't.

Kim is the 3rd generation of this regime and his hold is more tenuous than the leaders before him. He knows that, trump knows that. That's why there is a window now. And former presidents have gone in with political agendas. trump is the first I have seen to combine it with an economic one with a vision for NK and at the same time taming china. His approach is truly unique. And yes that does require placating the leader a bit. That's harmless rhetoric. So what. If it makes kimmy more receptive to US overtures why not. Sorry you are so offended. Find a safe space. Until then, let pragmatists deal with the world as it is.

A lot dont get it jazz
The art of the deal. I m not real keen on trump , but i think history will be very kind to him
Our imbasile will go down as the worst in history

[WiltonRanch]

You don't get it wheel you really don't.

Kim is the 3rd generation of this regime and his hold is more tenuous than the leaders before him. He knows that, trump knows that. That's why there is a window now. And former presidents have gone in with political agendas. trump is the first I have seen to combine it with an economic one with a vision for NK and at the same time taming china. His approach is truly unique. And yes that does require placating the leader a bit. That's harmless rhetoric. So what. If it makes kimmy more receptive to US overtures why not. Sorry you are so offended. Find a safe space. Until then, let pragmatists deal with the world as it is.

You what they say about the 3rd generation. Either make it or break it.