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    #31
    You have to be a god damn moron to handle this situation this way. It's the tax collection treaties and access to the swift system we have with the US that's forced the hand to arrest this lady in the first place. Very good points were raised that we could have diverted her, or informed her. Also could have had her delivered to the US before it hit the press, if you weren't trying to make hay politically with her. Interesting that it was this week a year ago soybeans came off the top. Now we are in a situation where economically, China is hurting, their hog herd has been reduced by a third since 2014 due to various factors. This isn't good folks. I suspect they'll be $7-$8 canola bids in the fallout of this. That's IF we have access to the US market and the conservatives or dems don't put a halt to USMCA.

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      #32
      Potash that’s interesting, not sure if we can survive any tit for tat battles, but..

      What if the sask govt were to increase provincial tax, royalty, or whatever scheme on potash to off set:
      Regionalized climate change 😀
      Carbon offset (_ax) 😀
      Provide sustainability support for interprovincial/ Fed transfer program 😀
      Freight rejuvenation and sustainability programming 😀

      What ever, you want to call it ( not _ariff), fund provincial coffers program.


      Hate to put one industry against the other, but
      Last edited by Rareearth; Mar 5, 2019, 13:27.

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        #33
        Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
        Yes, we start negotiating acceptance into the Union of States south of us immediately. They are the only ones with any leverage in trade negotiations with China, they will win the trade war with China, and China will do as they say if they want to survive as an industrialized exporting nation. There is zero point in being on the outside looking in, our survival depends on being a part of that. Who here has connections with Washington to get the ball rolling?
        The signs at the Conservative rallies need to say "The West Wants Out, Not In".

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          #34
          What the hell happened today with China and Richardson international.

          Canola down.

          Little potato is done.

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            #35
            Originally posted by SASKFARMER3 View Post
            What the hell happened today with China and Richardson international.

            Canola down.

            Little potato is done.
            Contracts cancelled with Richardson, Viterra and somebody else. Trumps big china deal on tap.

            Can I interest you in a discussion on the intersection of gender diversity with canola prices?

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              #36
              Last sentence sums it up....

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                #37
                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                Trudeau has handled the SNC case badly.

                But what would have been the right way to handle the Huawei case without interfering in a criminal case for extradition?

                Do you want Andrew Scheer to let her go and what impact would that have on US relations?

                The reality is China is in a trade war with the US and we are collateral damage. Australia has pissed them off as well.
                We are a land of laws.....so it was the right thing to hand her over the Americans. If you don't live in a land of laws, you turn in to Russia, China, Saudia Arabia, Iran, etc etc. How many of you would like to make any of those places to lay your head down every night????

                I'm proud to live in a country with a constitution that we live by, so as much as it pains me, and every other farmer on the prairies, to have an event like this effect our canola market, right is right and wrong is wrong. They did the right thing.

                Honestly if your saying it was the right thing to just give her back to the Chinese, then your basically saying our fearless leader did nothing wrong in the SNC Lavin scandal. The law is the law.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by HappyFarmer View Post
                  We are a land of laws.....so it was the right thing to hand her over the Americans. If you don't live in a land of laws, you turn in to Russia, China, Saudia Arabia, Iran, etc etc. How many of you would like to make any of those places to lay your head down every night????

                  I'm proud to live in a country with a constitution that we live by, so as much as it pains me, and every other farmer on the prairies, to have an event like this effect our canola market, right is right and wrong is wrong. They did the right thing.

                  Honestly if your saying it was the right thing to just give her back to the Chinese, then your basically saying our fearless leader did nothing wrong in the SNC Lavin scandal. The law is the law.

                  Not give her back to the Chinese. ...but let the Americans deal with it.....

                  Trudeau had the option to do something different....that didn't make us ...as in western Canadian farmers.....collateral damage..

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                    #39
                    I think Trudeau’s plan was to protect her from big bad USA. Maybe she votes😹

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                      #40
                      They need to send an envoy to China or even get communication going again to smooth this over. Don’t give up Meng though. There’s more to this than us simple bumpkins see. However, with the state of disarray the federal government is in that won’t be happening anytime soon. Her extradition will be tied up in the court long enough to see events which will prevent her from going stateside. China’s reaction is typical of someone we shouldn’t be doing business with anyway. Instead of getting confrontational with the Americans we should at least entertain them and stroke their ego. China will break eventually and anyone depending on them will be collateral damage. At least this pissing match is early enough we can make changes to canola acres or be prepared to store if possible. I honestly wonder if China is already out of money and trying to bomb the market.

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