Is it worth growing canola? ???

[farmaholic]

Here is a kinda a little inside info. One of my American cousins is married to a fella that has worked in Washington even before he got out of college. First working for senators and then as a lobbyist for Fannie Mae, now he works for American Airlines in the capital. At Christmas I asked him if it was true that Liethusuer hated Freedland, while he said he didn't know if that was correct the general consensus around DC was that the Canadian negotiating team was extremely overmatched by the US team. If anybody on this forum doesn't think that the US played Canada like a fiddle on this Huaewi thing is sadly mistaken. Trump will get a deal with China, we will extradite her to the US and Trump will let her go, and in the process he will have eliminated Canadian canola as a competitor to US beans and will have ruined Canada's rep with China. Now I am not blaming Trump for this , I think it was his plan all along, the Art of the Deal. By the way I believe JWR will be the next Liberal leader by the end of April, she has orchestrated a masterful in house coup.

What is the most valuable piece on a chess board? The king is a useless cumbersome piece...very vulnerable and defenceless.

Maybe Miss Meng Wanzhou needs to be our queen. Possession is 9/10 of the law. Maybe she becomes our bargaining chip. But we need someone who knows how to negotiate.

Stupid how the government put Canadians between a rock(USA) and a hard place(China).

[jazz]

We have a USMCA with the US. Get it signed then send her back to china as an olive branch. US might be mad for a bit but they cant renege on the trade deal then.

Canola might suffer anyway because yes it sounds like china will be buying massive US ag products and wont need ours any more.


Remember when everyone bashed trump for not signing on the TPP. Well he had something much bigger in mind. Where is that agreement now? Thought Vietnam and Japan wanted canola? Or Europe, you know the deal Freeland cried to get. Arent they taking any canola? Its all a farce. Our trade is shrinking not expanding because of incompetents.

[Guest]

Does it really need explaining to you chuck, my fingers are tired of typing out the obvious to you guys.

But let me summarize, weak leadership has economic consequences.

Youre wastin your breath jazz
But still blows my mind how any supposed sask farmer could support this scam that is going on in ottawa , especially when it has become so obvious . Even a hairbrain should be able to understand the depth of it and the obvious hatered and lack of respect for the (cash cow) west

[jazz]

I bet dollars to donuts that some radical alt left envirowhacko has talk to Trudeau by now and told him not to do anything on the canola file because GMOs, glyphos and neocontinoids are next on the hit list.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Canola might suffer anyway because yes it sounds like china will be buying massive US ag products and wont need ours any more.

Which is of course why the ONLY solution is getting out of this abusive marriage, and joining the US, who will be the only ones able to negotiate and enforce whatever trade deals they want/need.

[furrowtickler]

Apparently a few liberals that are jumping ship 🚢, ended up in these canola shipments.
China don’t want them either ....

We all know there is no “pests” in those canola shipments, just another Chinese trade tactic .
Regardless this is getting old already , farmers in Western Canada continue to carry the burden of poor political agendas and trade spats over made up b/S just to drive the price down costing us billions in lost revenue that is completely out of our hands but yet we pay the price , it all gets passed to the primary producers.
Canary seed to Mexico
Mustard sales
Flax debacle
Pulse tariffs
Canola .. again

Options for decent cash crops are getting limited

This is why so many are against seed costs to double or Tripple , carbon tax on every single input we need and machinery costs to go up another 10% just because. It’s not sustainable at the farm level . We are already paying far too much for everything we need already .
Hopefully this canola issue gets resolved ASAP or things will not be good at all come next harvest.
A lot of farms , especially in this area , are struggling big time due to that terrible harvest , lost grades and yields, very late deliveries, high cost of drying and very high repair bills from terrible harvest conditions. Others in SW sask had virtually no crop due to drought.
This political circus act is very bad timing.

[blackpowder]

Telephone ringing and it's the eighties calling. Kinda saw it coming.
All we're missing is the good old board! Maybe they'll bring back the GRIP program too.
Trump had a few books out there and lots of history to explain how he was gonna operate. Fine by me.
Mister LaLa was and is, just smoke.
Think he'll ever be back??
Starve on his trust fund otherwise.
This gets old, and yes, if we can't at least change our system then by all means apply to the south. At least we'd have 2 elected senators. Oils going there for a song already. Mayswell get the kickbacks as Quebec.

[blackpowder]

Frickin canola. Have to grow it here.
Back to $10. Retailers are getting a thick skin. Most are just getting salary to say anything.

[farmaholic]

Western Canadian Agriculture.

I'm tired of being collateral damage(trade disputes and tarrifs)
I'm tired of being a fish in a barrel(SeedCo seed tax, ever increasing costs in fuel, fertilizer and chemical , machinery and parts)
I'm tired of being a casualty of friendly fire(tax law changes, carbon tax, corporate pandering by government)

Yup this could get ugly.

[fjlip]

Western Canadian Agriculture.

I'm tired of being collateral damage(trade disputes and tarrifs)
I'm tired of being a fish in a barrel(SeedCo seed tax, ever increasing costs in fuel, fertilizer and chemical , machinery and parts)
I'm tired of being a casualty of friendly fire(tax law changes, carbon tax, corporate pandering by government)

Yup this could get ugly.

Apparently so are at least a hundred farm families...SICK of it all...

[hobbyfrmr]

Input capital has to be sweating their streaming deal....the saskparty will do something to save dougie......

I think INP would be hedged on the futures market. They have a farmer guaranteed supply of canola against the hedge. If it doesnt work out, the would allow the farmer to “buy down” his position by turning over his title to the farmland to INP. This has already happened. I cant remember the exact number but it was millions.

[jazz]

Apparently so are at least a hundred farm families...SICK of it all

I will never understand the RB auction book. Look I bought a million dollar tractor and blade. Oops, auction time. If these are the kinds of decisions farmers are making we have some real trouble.

[hobbyfrmr]

Apparently a few liberals that are jumping ship 🚢, ended up in these canola shipments.
China don’t want them either ....

We all know there is no “pests” in those canola shipments, just another Chinese trade tactic .
Regardless this is getting old already , farmers in Western Canada continue to carry the burden of poor political agendas and trade spats over made up b/S just to drive the price down costing us billions in lost revenue that is completely out of our hands but yet we pay the price , it all gets passed to the primary producers.
Canary seed to Mexico
Mustard sales
Flax debacle
Pulse tariffs
Canola .. again

Options for decent cash crops are getting limited

This is why so many are against seed costs to double or Tripple , carbon tax on every single input we need and machinery costs to go up another 10% just because. It’s not sustainable at the farm level . We are already paying far too much for everything we need already .
Hopefully this canola issue gets resolved ASAP or things will not be good at all come next harvest.
A lot of farms , especially in this area , are struggling big time due to that terrible harvest , lost grades and yields, very late deliveries, high cost of drying and very high repair bills from terrible harvest conditions. Others in SW sask had virtually no crop due to drought.
This political circus act is very bad timing.

This has happened before. Canada sent a representative (Harper himself? I cant remember) to China and it was resolved in short order. Agreed the Chinese play dirty. They make these announcements, the price of canola drops $1.00/bushel then they buy the existing compromised shipment and order two more at the lower price. Then they announce they found 40 million tonnes of corn in a quonset somwhere in the middle of the country, lower the corn price until they fill a big order. Rinse and repeat.

Farms around here look in pretty good shape. Drying was an extra cost but they fire up the dryers in August when it is warmer and less expensive to dry. Then they harvest into the dry spells. If not, they still have a lower drying cost than waiting until October/November temperatures and they finish harvest no later than the habitual stragglers.
I dont know enough about their operations to comment on repairs. Most have warrantee on combines and I would guess their repairs are relative to most other operations in the area.

[hobbyfrmr]

I will never understand the RB auction book. Look I bought a million dollar tractor and blade. Oops, auction time. If these are the kinds of decisions farmers are making we have some real trouble.

I have concluded that some farmers are genuinely retiring after an fairly productive career. Not every RB farm auction is a distressed act.

[farmaholic]

I will never understand the RB auction book. Look I bought a million dollar tractor and blade. Oops, auction time. If these are the kinds of decisions farmers are making we have some real trouble.

There are likely several reasons those auctions are taking place. Death, bankruptcy, nobody to take over, retirement, divorce...