Richardson - Canola - 2019 ?

[hobbyfrmr]

Sorry to burst your bubble and rain on your parade hobbybud....but der ain't no clubroot spray!

They better make some soon. Its going to be a weird spring. I predict that with these low canola prices farmers are going to have to seed more and go for higher yeilds.
Nothing else makes profit. So ultimately they will plant a crop where they will lose the least with a very good possibility the ban will be lifted and profitable canola prices will be available by harvest time .

[shtferbrains]

How long have you been marketing your crops as organic Hobby?

[jazz]

They better make some soon. Its going to be a weird spring. I predict that with these low canola prices farmers are going to have to seed more and go for higher yeilds.
Nothing else makes profit. So ultimately they will plant a crop where they will lose the least with a very good possibility the ban will be lifted and profitable canola prices will be available by harvest time .

I fear that farmers are no reading the tea leaves here. China has said that more companies will get the export ban. Richardson is just the first. There is no resolution short of letting Meng go that will appease them. And on the side, Trump s expected to make a huge ag deal that may render our commodities less desirable. Going for more yield is not the answer here. You could be sitting on it for a long time.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I fear that farmers are no reading the tea leaves here. China has said that more companies will get the export ban. Richardson is just the first. There is no resolution short of letting Meng go that will appease them. And on the side, Trump s expected to make a huge ag deal that may render our commodities less desirable. Going for more yield is not the answer here. You could be sitting on it for a long time.

Well then, let's sit on it until we separate and join the US.

[hobbyfrmr]

How long have you been marketing your crops as organic Hobby?

I think I am getting set up for a burn here....... 10 years of organic sales......why?

[bgmb]

I don't know about other areas but the my local Richardson elevator hasn't had a competitive bid on canola since November anyway.

Our local pioneer has a competitive bid one month out of the year. I think they like to buy grain from guys who dont own a computer.

[shtferbrains]

I think I am getting set up for a burn here....... 10 years of organic sales......why?

I've got some long term pasture to work down that I have to decide if I should spray it or cream off some of those high organic prices.

Can that pasture go straight to organic if the person farming it is certified?

On the marketing side it looks more than a little different than commodity grain.

Has your marketing changed since you started?

Do you use brokers or go to end users?

Is there Todd Neighbor types to watch out for?

Start with that if you wish to reply.

And how long until my obsessive neighbor phones the weed inspector. Any of you guys can reply to that one.

[hobbyfrmr]

I've got some long term pasture to work down that I have to decide if I should spray it or cream off some of those high organic prices.

Can that pasture go straight to organic if the person farming it is certified?

On the marketing side it looks more than a little different than commodity grain.

Has your marketing changed since you started?

Do you use brokers or go to end users?

Is there Todd Neighbor types to watch out for?

Start with that if you wish to reply.

And how long until my obsessive neighbor phones the weed inspector. Any of you guys can reply to that one.

If you are making payments on a proper high clearance sprayer, run the goddamn thing. Just spray it out with 2 litres/acre of glyphosate. That will give you a good kill. Then direct seed it RR canola, spray it a couple times in crop, dessicate it with Liberty, Straight combine it then laugh all the way to the bank.
You clean up the land, your neighbor will be proud of you that you did the right thing.

I do not want to mislead anyone about the rules for transitioning to organic. The best resource to answer your questions is Procert. They know the rules and have a list of organic grain buyers.

https://www.pro-cert.org/

Organic prices are not exceptionally high. They are better than conventional but remember organic production can be half or even less than half the yield. Everybody knows you cant grow a respectable crop with no fertilizer an no sprays.

[shtferbrains]

But I want to make about $1000 an acre with no inputs!

I don't have any equipment. I was a cowboy. Might bale it if the weed inspector comes.

[hobbyfrmr]

But I want to make about $1000 an acre with no inputs!

I don't have any equipment. I was a cowboy. Might bale it if the weed inspector comes.

I you were a cowboy then you never learned how to grain farm properly.(joke).
This puts you in contention for a successful organic farm. This will mostly depend on how many hours you want to bounce around in a tractor pulling a disk. Organic farming is not as inexpensive as people think.
The last time I checked, its a free country. The whiners and complainers about weeds are just that. If the neighbors get stupid you can tell them to **** right off, they will be happy to hear you say that you are only harming yourself. Otherwise, let them laugh and anytime they please they can write a cheque and buy you out. Its really quite simple. They know it and you know it.
As far as gross $/acre income, dont expect much the first year on new breaking. Always cut your expectations in half. This way you will not be disappointed with the end result and possibly pleasantly surprised.

[shtferbrains]

I'm an old sun-setter.

I remember farming before Treflan.

SF/canola/wheat rotation. Took 3yrs to be permitted to sell the wheat if you grew more than 20bu/ac.

Canada Thistle, Wild oats, Lambs quarters, an stinkweed were always problems

[hobbyfrmr]

I'm an old sun-setter.

I remember farming before Treflan.

SF/canola/wheat rotation. Took 3yrs to be permitted to sell the wheat if you grew more than 20bu/ac.

Canada Thistle, Wild oats, Lambs quarters, an stinkweed were always problems

I hate saying this in public but I cannot remember my deliveries ever being more than 4% dockage. More likely around 2%.

[shtferbrains]

I am not surprised.

That's why I asked you questions.

You have to be very good to go 10 yrs organic.

Los of things can happen, most of them bad.

Sorry for the hijack.

[hobbyfrmr]

I am not surprised.

That's why I asked you questions.

You have to be very good to go 10 yrs organic.

Los of things can happen, most of them bad.

Sorry for the hijack.

No, it’s mostly dumb luck and good fan/ sieves in the combine. 🙂