Herbicide Tolerant Lentil Variety Available 2006?

[JACKFLASH]

To all on this thread:

It seems I am the moving target. Carebear 300 hundred states his operations to grow a good lentil crop. Lots of operations,lots of time, lots of risk. When I see breakthroughs in varieties to allow us to use better chemicals that are registered all good. So attack me when my imagination wonders. We all know what early weed control doesn for yield,conversly less operations, less risk, less time.

Boone yes we move into the grey area on RR crops, but with less fish stocks in the world and more dependacy on alternative proteins. Where do we turn to feed the world.

Parsley,Where do I go to get the info on Denmark banning Roundup. Here is a warning signal that too much of a good thing can do. We need this info so we can be better stewarts of our farms. I know I would be screwed if Roundup was not in my toolbox.
Parsley: the problem arises in the use rates in an intensive cropping operation,over years and years.

Lastly Monsanto blundered going into the wheat market. When we have execellent weed control alternatives. My farm is not ready for RR wheat at this time. So again using my imagination where RR crops would benefit,in a 4 year rotation. That technology would benefit in pulses, mustards,where weed control is substandard.
So to sum up Monsanto spent billions chasing a market if licensed could return 10,s of billions. Where they could have shifted gears and went to other seeds like pulses, etc. Still made some money and showed more benefits to the farmer and world markets.

[parsley]

Hi JACKFLAH,

1. I read it in an American farming publication. I'll try it on a Denmark website in the next day or two.

2. In a paper, the following:

On average farm in Canada, the REALIZED NET INCOME was between $10,000 and $20,000 in the 1950's, the 60's the 70's. For the last five years, the average farm earned $595.00/year from the markets alone. The bulk of income came from the wife working=off farm income,savings.liquidation of assets, debt and government payments.

BUT the GROSS INPUT over the last decade went from $30,000 to $140,000/year.

It's pause for thought.

Parsley

[parsley]

That should read $959.00/year as money the Canadian producer earned on the soley the markets in the last five years.

Sorry about that.

Parsley

[TOM4CWB]

Jackflash;

You didn't say anything wrong...

We all hope for solutions that help our crops grow well... without spending huge sums to a chemical company... and RR Canola has done this for many.

Hope we can find better solutions in the future... GPS guided solutions within .25 of an inch... weed with mowers, lazers... electrolysis... our imaginations are our creativity...

Please keep on using yours Jackflash!

[charliep]

Jackflash

I suffer the same questions at different times.

1) My thoughts are to evaluate new products/technology based on risks/benefits. Some risk is okay - the direction is to establish how much and ways of evaluating to prevent going too far down the wrong road.

2) In a world where we can land a little machine on Mars and communicate with it to tell it where to go/have it send back pictures, why can't the world develop processes to keep product separated in a way that meets customers very specific needs?

3) Parsley - I hear your comments about margins. Hard to beat the trend to bigger. Maybe an alternative is to get better. In my opinion, better will be improved marketing/working towards customer desires.

[parsley]

I agree, charliep, BIGGER is the trend. Farmer investment in bigger can be decimated by a sharp rise in interest rates. Will appear when we least expect it, and we carry the risk. BETTER can make money for the farmer, is my observation, and it will improve Stats Canada's figure of $959.00/yrlyavg earned income from the markets. Would you go so far to say LESS and BETTER?

Parsley

[TOM4CWB]

Parsley;

The future will be in co-operation... which is simply a reorginisation of smaller farms into a structure of co-operation which can volume purchase, market, and manage more efficiently resourses which create food.

This takes a humble spirit by everyone involved... if Joint Ventures are to benefit economically.

I understand the Sask. Pulse Growers are to spend $600,000.00/ year from their own levy, to give to plant breeders for royalties instead of selling seed at higher prices.

My understanding is that this will apply to both CDC Saskatoon varieties as well as Private varieties.

This is an attempt to move to an EU/Ausie type system of seed development, where seed development cost is collected at the point of sale of the commercial produce rather than certified seed sales themselves.

SHOULD all of our grain seeds be funded and levy/royalty be collected in this manner?

[dnach]

Re: Tom4, the pulse industry should be a model for others to follow in this respect. I have been in the canola seed industry for over 10 years, and what I see as a farmer and a seedsman disturbs me.
As for Clearfield lentils, no big advantage, most producers are already pursuit on lentils or as a pre-burn with r/up. Works far better and safer than sencor.