Be careful what you say on line if you want to travel

[littledoggie]

I am not religious. What happened in New Zealand is diabolical. There are problems with far-right extremism in all segments of society. And the confusion abounds. Media is NOT helping. Did anyone hear about this?

https://www.christianpost.com/news/120-people-killed-140-homes-destroyed-by-nigeria-fulani-since-february.html

If this is fake news then someone please tell me.

[Braveheart]

What did the killer do, write or say that has him described as "far right". Maybe he is "far left"?

NZ Prime Minister was fast to state gun laws are going to change. The killer could have done more damage with a heavy truck.

Have I said too much? Can't go to Europe anyway so whatever.

[littledoggie]

What did the killer do, write or say that has him described as "far right". Maybe he is "far left"?

NZ Prime Minister was fast to state gun laws are going to change. The killer could have done more damage with a heavy truck.

Have I said too much? Can't go to Europe anyway so whatever.

You're right of course - I did not read his manifesto and I don't plan to.

The line is very blurred now between far right and far left. I'm beginning to think that they are the same.

But back to the topic - I wonder where they will draw the line on this security issue for travel. I make comments on social media and always strive to keep things civil and pragmatic. I am center-right in my political beliefs - will that affect my eligibility for a visa?

In regards to Facebook & Google - has anyone seen 'The Creepy Line' documentary?

[grassfarmer]

What did the killer do, write or say that has him described as "far right". Maybe he is "far left"? ....

Have you any reason to theorize he wasn't "far right"? The evidence that has come to light so far indicates that he was. Here is an example.

http://www.msn.com/en-xl/australasia/top-stories/nz-killer-wrote-racist-manifesto-influenced-by-far-right-ideologues/ar-BBUPP1b http://https://www.msn.com/en-xl/australasia/top-stories/nz-killer-wrote-racist-manifesto-influenced-by-far-right-ideologues/ar-BBUPP1b

[checking]

Standard line is that Democrats (often labelled as left wing) don't use guns because the Republicans (often labelled as right wing) own all the guns.

I looked up the question, are ISIS terrorist left wing radicals, or right wing radicals? There is no definitive answer, just arguments. What can be agreed on is that most would call them extremists in their action because most (thankfully) could never see themselves involved in such actions. You can insert any group you want in front of terrorist, but right, or left, I don't think so.

Hopefully, looking it up because of this thread did not get me on any travel list. If it did, I don't desire to leave the Great White North anyways.

[Braveheart]

Have you any reason to theorize he wasn't "far right"? The evidence that has come to light so far indicates that he was. Here is an example.

http://www.msn.com/en-xl/australasia/top-stories/nz-killer-wrote-racist-manifesto-influenced-by-far-right-ideologues/ar-BBUPP1b http://https://www.msn.com/en-xl/australasia/top-stories/nz-killer-wrote-racist-manifesto-influenced-by-far-right-ideologues/ar-BBUPP1b

Read it but not sure what qualifies it as "far right" other than left leaning media saying It is.

Che Guevara or some Bolsheviks pulled off some pretty grim acts. They were "far left".

The point is, once a label is put on someone it tends start to create divisions and marginalizes people and classes. In this case in NZ they're attaching "white supremist" and "white nationalist" as additional adjectives.

Just call him evil or nuts or whatever. Applying extra labels is fuel for class and racial warfare.

This something Justin Trudeau and yourself don't get.

[sawfly1]

Where are all these antifa terrorist attacks .
In some made up land ,
Some made up planet.
Just list them off.
Place time # dead.

I must have missed a lot of news
Never even heard of them other fox
Talk shows

[malleefarmer]

Interesting the gun issue.

Australia has strict laws on type weapons and ownership.

NZ according to some had tighter controls on getting a gun license and at point of purchase but many weapons banned in aust were freeley available in NZ.

The difference is or was in NZ you have to undergo some sort of phyciatric evaluation and some back ground checks before you can buy. Aust we have no such clearances.

Semi autos will be banned in NZ for sure now.

People live with our gun laws no probs.

[malleefarmer]

One thing that did annoy me really annoyed me please this is a tragic situation and feel sorry for all and angry it could happen.

But some parts of left leaning media blamed trump i just couldnt join the dots.

His ramblings were more about europe and scandanavia some shooters in usa got mentioned.

But he mentioned battles in europe in 1200s etc Ethnic cleansing in bosnia. etc.

Last night seems he was nothing more than slightly akward with women and a bit of a loner none of his school freinds etc thought he was detached and a mass murderer but guess always the case.

[sawfly1]

Not blaming trump . But if you give these low life white
Supremacists an inch . They are dumb enough to think it is support.
There are morons on both ends of the spectrum.
But the right wing ones that have access to the semiautos
Seem the most dangerous.
Not too many lefties think every moron should have
Access to semiautomatic weapons.
Then you have guys like Rush Limbaugh feeding the idiots