Oh Oh Kenney got caught

[dmlfarmer]

You are a smart guy, with access to the internet, you can do you own research to see the trends in tornadoes, hurricanes, sea level rise acceleration(remember that acceleration is the key word, the rise part was never in question), droughts, wind, pine beetles, forest fires etc. You might be surprised at the results vs. the rhetoric we hear everyday.

I was just suggesting that for the sake of credibility, that you don't try to justify the war on CO2 by trying to confuse CO2 with actual harmful pollutants, most independent thinking people are now informed enough to differentiate between the two, and no longer fall for such tactics, and tune out once that is part of the message.

AF5, I have no doubt that within a minute or two of searching I could find a site that would provide the trend you want ME to see and believe for any of the factors you mention. No matter what the topic, there is likely sites both pro and con. Anti-vaxer sites make great cases for avoiding vaccinations and I doubt an anti-vaxer would be swayed by a science based pro vax site. In fact I suspect most anti-vaxers probably don't spend time reading a site promoting vaccinations simply because of CONFIRMATION BASIS - the tend only to look for and believe what already supports our existing position.

Who is right, Food Babe or Farm Babe? Both have internet sites and link to other sites that provide "stats" that support their position. How many people read both before making a decision on a position either of these persons state or do people simply follow one or the other based on existing values and beliefs?

How many times are sites quoted on this forum which turn out not to be actual research or news but rather an opinion piece written by a columnist rather than a researcher? Before posting a link on this site, how many posters actually look at the credibility of the site they are promoting in terms of the author and research or do they post it simply because it confirms their personal basis's?

Never once did I mention CO2 and agree fully it is a critical atmospheric gas needed for plant growth. Water is also critical and needed for ALL life as we know it. But too much water creates problems and people can even drown in water even though it is critical to their living. I dare you to tell Nebraskans right now that too much water is never a problem. Hell even SF3 has said repeatedly that drought is better than too much rain. What is the tipping point where CO2 goes from being a critical gas to a problem? I don't know. But I do know that in the last 800,000 years, through natural cycles, ice ages, and warm periods C02 has never exceeded 300 ppm until a hundred years ago and is currently over 400ppm. We are in uncharted territory as far as mankind and society living in an environment with this much CO2 in the atmosphere and I base my position on what I feel is the best possible scientific evidence from the most credible atmospheric scientists after listening and discussing this issue with "experts" from both sides.

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[AlbertaFarmer5]

There is nothing about a trend I want you to see. There is nothing objective about counting tornadoes, or hurricanes or other extreme weather(for example) or measuring sea level. The official information is out there as compiled by national agencies, all you have to do is look it up, could even compile it, analyse and chart it for yourself to ensure you are not being influenced by someone else's confirmation bias ( not basis).

Otherwise, as I stated, not going to go through this all over again. At this point, it is becoming obvious that thanks to mother nature, the science is winning over sensationalism, and given enough time science will prevail. All we need to do is ensure that no rogue groups cause irreparable harm through geoengineering, and bide our time until common sense prevails or the next emergency (real or imagined) displaces this one.

[Guest]

Mother nature threw a real f$&k into the plans of the scammers this winter . Pretty hard to blame one of the coldest winters on record on global warming ,although they did try ! Its falling down all around them , fun to watch!

[Horse]

Mother nature threw a real f$&k into the plans of the scammers this winter . Pretty hard to blame one of the coldest winters on record on global warming ,although they did try ! Its falling down all around them , fun to watch!

Just in enviroment ca says dec,jan,feb averaged.2 above normal ,dec 7 above jan 6 above feb 7 below. So dont know where you get 1 of the coldest on record,so who is right you or them??

[Guest]

Just in enviroment ca says dec,jan,feb averaged.2 above normal ,dec 7 above jan 6 above feb 7 below. So dont know where you get 1 of the coldest on record,so who is right you or them??

I don't know horse , I think you been around for a while , what do you think ? or can you still think on your own ? many leftards have lost that ability . did you watch the news at all this winter ?

[wd9]

I don't know horse , I think you been around for a while , what do you think ? or can you still think on your own ? many leftards have lost that ability . did you watch the news at all this winter ?

It was the coldest Feb most places, but not the coldest winter. News wasn't very busy apparently.

Environment Canada senior climatologist David Phillips said that while this stretch might make you think this is the coldest winter ever, the numbers tell a different story.

"So far this winter is warmer than normal," he said. "January, believe it or not, was almost a degree-and-a-half warmer than normal. December was three degrees warmer than normal."

https://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/extreme-cold-prairies-saskatchewan-manitoba-record-breaking-saskatoon-key-lake-prince-alberta-dangerous-wind-chill-frostbite-cancellations-travel-delays/124021 https://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/extreme-cold-prairies-saskatchewan-manitoba-record-breaking-saskatoon-key-lake-prince-alberta-dangerous-wind-chill-frostbite-cancellations-travel-delays/124021

Plus 20 today and yesterday in Edmonton

[blackjack]

Interesting,just watched global Calgary news the meteorologist had December,January and February 6 degrees average below normal .

[Guest]

like I said it's to bad people have lost the ability to think for themselves
she was one cold miserable son of a bitch here that started in november

[furrowtickler]

Winter started here in September... and yet another crop damaging frost at the end of August .

[wd9]

like I said it's to bad people have lost the ability to think for themselves
she was one cold miserable son of a bitch here that started in november

Are you saying there is a conspiracy happening with all the temp measuring devices as well?