Oh Oh Kenney got caught

[dmlfarmer]

[QUOTE=caseih;405613]

Caseih, why do you think the weather in your backyard or even western Canada is indicative of the weather in the entire planet? Didn't mallee's posts of record high temperatures at least make you pause and think that maybe it is not cold in the entire world even though North America is?...


...And if your claim that it was one of the coldest winters on record, why is measured sea ice in the Arctic in February nearly 6% less than the 30 year average between 1981 and 2010 and Antarctic ice is over 13 % less than the same 30 year average?...

...Given this actual data, could you please provide the proof you have to make the claim it was "one of the coldest winters on record" and "it (global warming??) is falling down all around them"
Google palm trees and crocodiles in the Arctic

I did so but it did not answer the questions I asked you so I will ask you again.

BTW, you also ignore a number of important facts relating to the palm trees and crocodiles in the Arctic. Besides there being no mankind, or society 50,000,000 years ago sea levels were estimated to be 200 feet higher ( so much for most of habited area on earth today), that all the middle of the North American continent was an inland sea (which is why western Canada is blessed with oil and potash), that there were no glaciers or ice caps which today supply much of the rivers that we rely on for irrigation, and water supplies. https://www.google.ca/search?q=what+the+earth+looked+like+50+million+yea rs+ago&tbm=isch&tbs=rimg:CcWMnwtfI9FmIjhpkX9LacfEu f3SKqgnWSEzsm5YxK4j1dAAVVciVnQof-qmd8FnmJlzD8iPQO-zkP0YRb_1GAqDnwyoSCWmRf0tpx8S5Eb0NhTpAtqqxKhIJ_1dI qqCdZITMRKtQ1VEhUd7YqEgmybljEriPV0BHTrKE3N03P2ioSC QBVVyJWdCh_1EWquKt0quyPhKhIJ6qZ3wWeYmXMRTAC81XDCBO YqEgkPyI9A77OQ_1REP4O6YocXiJyoSCRhFv8YCoOfDEYtFd6d 54iSG&tbo=u&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi27pDO_JPhAhUp6oMKHcJt BPkQ9C96BAgBEBg&biw=1920&bih=932&dpr=1#imgrc=_m4C9 X6LOHG7YM:&spf=1553196922360 https://www.google.ca/search?q=what+the+earth+looked+like+50+million+yea rs+ago&tbm=isch&tbs=rimg:CcWMnwtfI9FmIjhpkX9LacfEu f3SKqgnWSEzsm5YxK4j1dAAVVciVnQof-qmd8FnmJlzD8iPQO-zkP0YRb_1GAqDnwyoSCWmRf0tpx8S5Eb0NhTpAtqqxKhIJ_1dI qqCdZITMRKtQ1VEhUd7YqEgmybljEriPV0BHTrKE3N03P2ioSC QBVVyJWdCh_1EWquKt0quyPhKhIJ6qZ3wWeYmXMRTAC81XDCBO YqEgkPyI9A77OQ_1REP4O6YocXiJyoSCRhFv8YCoOfDEYtFd6d 54iSG&tbo=u&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi27pDO_JPhAhUp6oMKHcJt BPkQ9C96BAgBEBg&biw=1920&bih=932&dpr=1#imgrc=_m4C9 X6LOHG7YM:&spf=1553196922360

[shtferbrains]

[QUOTE=wd9;405608]Once weather and resistant viruses/bacteria clean out the humans worldwide, it'll return to normal.

So which one do you think is the bigger threat of those two unrelated issues?

Personally the resistant bacteria scares the shit out of me but I don't see the weather in my area being hard to adapt to.

Most hospitals today have big problems sending people home with resistant infections that they may have to live a lifetime with.

How much would it cost for Canada to clean out the resistant bacteria like Holland is doing?

[QUOTE=dmlfarmer;405603]Caseih, why do you think the weather in your backyard or even western Canada is indicative of the weather in the entire planet? Didn't mallee's posts of record high temperatures at least make you pause and think that maybe it is not cold in the entire world even though North America is?

Now 4 separate agencies have just released the data showing global average temperatures for February 2019 was amongst the amongst the 5th warmest February on record. How do you explain that given your claim of one of the coldest winters on record?


https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/news/global-climate-201902 https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/news/global-climate-201902

And if your claim that it was one of the coldest winters on record, why is measured sea ice in the Arctic in February nearly 6% less than the 30 year average between 1981 and 2010 and Antarctic ice is over 13 % less than the same 30 year average?

https://weather.com/news/climate/news/2019-03-18-noaa-february-2019-global-climate-temperature-report https://weather.com/news/climate/news/2019-03-18-noaa-february-2019-global-climate-temperature-report

Given this actual data, could you please provide the proof you have to make the claim it was "one of the coldest winters on record" and "it (global warming??) is falling down all around them"
as I said climate change has always been here , always will
that's why there are palm trees in the ice in the Arctic
this is the year there was to be no sea ice according to the likes of gore/Suzuki predicted 20 years ago , yes 2019 !!!
the scam is coming to light , slowly but surely
the climate will change , with or without us
but scammers like those two won't make anymore easy money off of fools
proof, you can find proof of anything you want on
the Internet
Google palm trees and crocodiles in the Arctic

[littledoggie]

Regarding the Alberta election. Be sure to always do your fact checks cause there's a lot of BS being spewed. For example: Kenney's view on immigration?

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/jason-kenney-slams-david-suzukis-immigration-views-as-toxic-and-irresponsible-after-environmentalist-says-canada-full

[wd9]

Once weather and resistant viruses/bacteria clean out the humans worldwide, it'll return to normal.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/more-than-200-dead-in-mozambique-after-cyclone-thousands-in-need-of-rescue-1.5065423 https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/more-than-200-dead-in-mozambique-after-cyclone-thousands-in-need-of-rescue-1.5065423

[littledoggie]

Interesting,just watched global Calgary news the meteorologist had December,January and February 6 degrees average below normal .

There is nothing "normal" about temperatures. Just averages. Drives me crazy when the TV meteorologists report "normal" temperatures.

[dmlfarmer]

dml, run your little chart back another couple million years and you will see that carbon spiked to 400 ppm before humans were even here. It did that a half dozen times before that. Not uncharted territory at all. Earth is still here and had several ice ages since.

But man wasn't here millions of years ago! Western Canada was an inland sea - would it real tough farming on the prairies if we had the conditions that existed a couple of million years ago.! Volcanic eruptions where much more prevalent, spewing out all all kinds of greenhouse gasses. Sea levels were much higher. I cannot believe you are suggesting that communities and societies could adapt to the environment that was on earth millions of years ago.

[jazz]

dml, run your little chart back another couple million years and you will see that carbon spiked to 400 ppm before humans were even here. It did that a half dozen times before that. Not uncharted territory at all. Earth is still here and had several ice ages since.

[dmlfarmer]

Mother nature threw a real f$&k into the plans of the scammers this winter . Pretty hard to blame one of the coldest winters on record on global warming ,although they did try ! Its falling down all around them , fun to watch!

Caseih, why do you think the weather in your backyard or even western Canada is indicative of the weather in the entire planet? Didn't mallee's posts of record high temperatures at least make you pause and think that maybe it is not cold in the entire world even though North America is?

Now 4 separate agencies have just released the data showing global average temperatures for February 2019 was amongst the amongst the 5th warmest February on record. How do you explain that given your claim of one of the coldest winters on record?


https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/news/global-climate-201902 https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/news/global-climate-201902

And if your claim that it was one of the coldest winters on record, why is measured sea ice in the Arctic in February nearly 6% less than the 30 year average between 1981 and 2010 and Antarctic ice is over 13 % less than the same 30 year average?

https://weather.com/news/climate/news/2019-03-18-noaa-february-2019-global-climate-temperature-report https://weather.com/news/climate/news/2019-03-18-noaa-february-2019-global-climate-temperature-report

Given this actual data, could you please provide the proof you have to make the claim it was "one of the coldest winters on record" and "it (global warming??) is falling down all around them"



Thanks

[chuckChuck]

https://www.manitobacooperator.ca/weather/how-we-dodged-a-weather-bullet/?module=cat6&pgtype=article&i=

"A second weather topic that cropped up once again is the whole idea that since we (much of southern Canada and the northern U.S.) have been so cold, how on earth can there be global warming? I don’t know how many times I must argue this point: the key word here is “global,” not North America, not Canada, not Manitoba warming! In an article a few years ago, I discussed how you can visualize the cold air around the Earth’s poles as a blob of goo. The cold air sags southward and is pushed northward depending on several different factors. The key to this visualization or analogy is that there is only so much of the goo, or cold air. If cold air is allowed to sag southward in one part of the world, as we saw across North America in February, then it’s likely that warm air surged northward in another part of the world. Looking back at February, this is exactly what we find.

As the core of arctic air shifted into the Hudson Bay region in February, bringing some of the coldest weather we have seen in the last 20 years, across a large part of Europe very unseasonably warm air moved in, breaking numerous records for early-season heat. In North America, during the cold snap, three all-time record lows were recorded, as shown in Table 1 (above).

In contrast, during the final few days of February (Feb. 26-28), several stations either tied or broke not just station records but national monthly records, as shown in Table 2 (below).

Of interest, on Feb. 27, the mean monthly temperature for all of France was 21.3 C, which was the warmest February day on record.

Europe was not the only place to see record heat. Looking at the Southern Hemisphere, New Zealand and Australia ended up seeing record-breaking heat during their summer. While not a lot of all-time records were broken, the heat was continuous and long lasting. January ended up being the warmest month ever recorded for Australia, while the December-to-February period (summer) saw a mean temperature that was 2.14 C above average, shattering the previous record set in 2012-13 by nearly 0.7 C. Things were also very warm across Chile in early February, with 10 all-time records broken from Feb. 1 to 4. Thanks to Christopher C. Burt and the WeatherUnderground for these stats.

So, remember, while we might feel like we are the whole world, we are not — and while we were cold, a much larger part of the planet was way warmer than we were cold."

Daniel Bezte