Solution to China?

[macdon02]

Read peoples comments on the CBC article and you soon realize Canada has some very stupid people. They blame it all on Trump. Or trade with the USA and forget China or don't grow Canola.

I think we blew this so bad it won't come back and if the USA and China get the deal that looks like it will happen. We will be shipping grain to the USA for a discount and they will then ship to China.

Yesterday Japan shipped Canola to China, let that sink in for a profit.

Hm did we grow that farmers?

Here's a solution, maybe not the solution, give Mrs Meng to the US but in exchange, the US navy pulls back all its ships from the Chinese shipping lanes. Let it turn into old style pirates and plunder. Win win, US puts extra pressure on China. This being the bitch is getting old.

[jazz]

But being the world is going to run out of food soon there is not to many polititions or major news outlets to worried about it.

They used to care about food but they don't anymore because nobody can mount a resistance to the system. Look at venezuala, starving, shelves empty eating stray dogs and they still cant overthrow the govt.

Farmers are sort of looked at in disdain because they are so independent. You have a group controlling a lot of the open spaces in the country and many of them could live without the govt if they had to. There is nobody else like that in the country. Everyone else is dependent on the govt.

There was a good article from Jim Rickards who studied how people in Europe survived 2 world wars and some pretty hard times. he found the most resilient ones always had self supporting real estate namely a home on arable land. Even if they lost the land in the war, the titles remained and it was returned to them after the war. A paid off title on a piece of productive land with water and some ammunition is just about the best asset there is every going to be.

Now in Europe its happening again. The real ag all went corporate and big family farms, the immigrants overran the cities and the smaller farmers and rural people fell back onto small pieced of land, feed themselves get some govt funded win and solar and that's how they live now.

[jamesb]

What a sad state of affairs. It wouldn't take long to consider about the ramifications of the arrest of the Huawei woman. I have no doubt that the Huawei business with Chinese communist party influence are a threat to western governments and businesses. That being said, it wasn't Canada that was after them for legal infractions. Before we stepped into this mess on behalf of the US we should have got assurances and concessions.
Thinking long term, this thing will get worked out as China is not self sufficient in food production but it does expose the realities that China is governed by a communist country with motives of increased power and influence.
https://www.vancourier.com/huawei-crisis-spurs-welcome-rethink-of-canada-china-relations-expert-1.23668047

[furrowtickler]

The frustrating part of all of this is that as grain farmers we are going to , actually are getting torched over an issue that does not have *** all to do with any of us period .

This arrest has put western Canadian farms under fire , and no one knows what to do about it . It’s fukin ridiculous.

I am not a fan of Freeland at all but hopefully her old man that farms in Alberta can give her some advice as to stop pissing on other heads of state !!!!
Especially the US , China and India for *** sakes . The three largest trading partners in the world dam near . And we rely tremendously on fukin exports !!!

Put your fukin virtue signaling aside and focus on helping Canadians as a whole and not just speacial interest groups.
That’s partly what’s led us to this point.
China , the US and India are still pissed about Trudeau’s first year in office where they tried to tell everyone else how they need to do business and virtue signal their societies. That’s the real issue still at play . JT and Freeland should have shut their mouths and focused on what’s best for all of us as a nation.
We are now as Canadians in a position that we could be screwed for a decade because of these idiots , especially us out west .

[grassfarmer]

Now in Europe its happening again. The real ag all went corporate and big family farms, the immigrants overran the cities and the smaller farmers and rural people fell back onto small pieced of land, feed themselves get some govt funded win and solar and that's how they live now.

More of your drug induced fantasy. Corporate agriculture in Europe is almost non-existent compared to what it is here in north America. Farms are still so much smaller too - always have been due to the limited acres. Then the immigrants overran the cities? well, no they didn't actually but I guess the facts don't matter when you're trying to stoke a false anti-immigrant narrative.
Just absolute made up horse#$%@ on a topic you know nothing about.

[furrowtickler]

Only in Canada ....


Yup we put a harmless Chinese lady under house arrest that has nothing to do with any of us and will cost us billions in trade but give a terrorist 10.5 million and the ability to buy a strip mall .
WTF ????

This China issue is on the US .... not Canada, especially not western Canada, same with Kadar ... yet it’s in our face and on our dime .

[furrowtickler]

No further comment needed...

[the big wheel]

Read peoples comments on the CBC article and you soon realize Canada has some very stupid people. They blame it all on Trump. Or trade with the USA and forget China or don't grow Canola.

I think we blew this so bad it won't come back and if the USA and China get the deal that looks like it will happen. We will be shipping grain to the USA for a discount and they will then ship to China.

Yesterday Japan shipped Canola to China, let that sink in for a profit.

Hm did we grow that farmers?

Trump did start all this shit we don’t have people here in government or opposition or representation from farm groups that can handle the fallout. All other sectors getting interim bailouts and we have to sit quiet and suck it up because apas, canola groups etc are telling the media it’s all being worked on.

And he’s losing his battles also trade deficit with China increased for the USA. He’s a shitshow causing the start of all this.

[furrowtickler]

[BFW]

Just an fyi shes only a piece of the puzzle theres more to it, ASF is killing massive massive numbers of hogs in China, they just don't need the meal for feed and this is also factoring large in this.
They arent going to come out and admit they have a massive problem, but they do.

I think ASF and the massive destruction of the Chinese hog herd is the main reason for the cancellation of the canola permits. In the mean time why not raise some political shit and let us think its retaliation for the Huawei deal. Shit, maybe we will let her go? Either way they don't need the canola and shitty for Canadian farms.

[farmaholic]

They may not need the meal but I bet they still want the oil.

Have hog prices or pork exports to China increased? What are they doing to make up for the lost pork production? Or is that shortage only looming at this point?

Back to rice and fish I guess.