Breaches Everywhere

[agstar77]

Article in the New York Times about levees in the Midwest. This is an ongoing disaster.

[bucket]

Article in the New York Times about levees in the Midwest. This is an ongoing disaster.

Yup and that's after the work they have done by the army corps to help mitigate thsee things....but it happens and it will compound in the next few days....

[furrowtickler]

No worries , record crops and stockpiles everywhere again for 2019

[beaverdam]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/breaches-everywhere-midwest-levees-burst-and-tough-questions-follow/ar-BBVrOxo https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/breaches-everywhere-midwest-levees-burst-and-tough-questions-follow/ar-BBVrOxo

[farmaholic]

This situation brings into question Saskatchewan's Conservation and Development and Sask Watershed Authority's mandate. So drainage along with flood mitigation is all a good thing, if engineered and properly done????? But when the power of Mother Nature unleashes her fury....look out! When normal run off occurs and collects down stream, that is one thing. But when water runs are cleaned out from sedimentation or enhanced or new ones created that add to already normal run off there is potential to cause downstream problems. The irony of this practice on a local level(as proposed by the C&D and SWA) is there is no real control structures for stopping the flow, only "properly sized" culverts to "regulate" the flow, SO even if down stream can't take anymore water volume....what are the upstream people supposed to tell them? I'm sorry, but it's coming anyway, all the natural runoff and additional man-made runoff...but we can't turn it off! This water will either have to be allowed to go, or culverts blocked with water backing up and being held in places it normally never would be, at least not in the amounts that would normally occur if every enhanced or new ditch isn't blocked upstream. Sometimes it is better to leave well-enough alone!

This part is disturbing, so nothing can be done without proper "engineering" and the "approval" of the SWA(Sask Watershed Authority), but if a C&D(which is a group of land owners and their land) is found liable for downstream damage....SWA, although they rubberstamped everything will not be liable for damage done by the works they approved.

Probably going to make some enemies with this post, but I didn't come here looking for friends.

[redleaf]

This situation brings into question Saskatchewan's Conservation and Development and Sask Watershed Authority's mandate. So drainage along with flood mitigation is all a good thing, if engineered and properly done????? But when the power of Mother Nature unleashes her fury....look out! When normal run off occurs and collects down stream, that is one thing. But when water runs are cleaned out from sedimentation or enhanced or new ones created that add to already normal run off there is potential to cause downstream problems. The irony of this practice on a local level(as proposed by the C&D and SWA) is there is no real control structures for stopping the flow, only "properly sized" culverts to "regulate" the flow, SO even if down stream can't take anymore water volume....what are the upstream people supposed to tell them? I'm sorry, but it's coming anyway, all the natural runoff and additional man-made runoff...but we can't turn it off! This water will either have to be allowed to go, or culverts blocked with water backing up and being held in places it normally never would be, at least not in the amounts that would normally occur if every enhanced or new ditch isn't blocked upstream. Sometimes it is better to leave well-enough alone!

This part is disturbing, so nothing can be done without proper "engineering" and the "approval" of the SWA(Sask Watershed Authority), but if a C&D(which is a group of land owners and their land) is found liable for downstream damage....SWA, although they rubberstamped everything will not be liable for damage done by the works they approved.

Probably going to make some enemies with this post, but I didn't come here looking for friends.

Not making enemies farmahilic but drainage gets a black eye every time Mother Nature goes overboard. Take a look back at history and listen to native folklore. Floods are nothing new. Hell read Mark Twain’s accounts of flooding on the Mississippi. Makes this sound like a walk in the park.

[jimmy]

Culverts work until a Rv washes into it and plugs it.

[farmaholic]

Looking to dock at Mount Ararat...

Native folklore like stories depicted in the above picture.

Actually I have respect for their cultural stories.

Just a bit feisty.

For some people Hydrocephalus is a serious condition. My "water on the brain" condition usually is a concern over a lack of rain.

p.s. Jimmy, what is Rv?

[Guest]

Looking to dock at Mount Ararat...

Native folklore like stories depicted in the above picture.

Actually I have respect for their cultural stories.

Just a bit feisty.

For some people Hydrocephalus is a serious condition. My "water on the brain" condition usually is a concern over a lack of rain.

p.s. Jimmy, what is Rv?

Recreation vehicle lol

[FarmJunkie]

Army core has done great things down there but forgot why they built those dams and levees. Flood control not recreational sites. Had they let some water go ahead of time it would have helped but the cottage and home owners wouldn’t like that. Wouldn’t have solved all the water problems but definitely would have helped. Perfect storms like that can’t be helped