Hicks or genius in Alberta?

[jazz]

Bucket hit the nail on the head.

We have real life examples right here on Agriville. Austranada who believes that big pharma is out to kill everyone, and is spreading his rumours with much enthusiasm. Chuck et al. believe big oil is out to kill everyone, and waste countless hours spreading their propaganda.
And it is working, people read it on the internet, and decide it must be true, no amount of facts can change these type of peoples minds. They are all about ideology, not science, or facts or evidence.

AF they aren't entirely wrong. There have been many example in the past of harmful products that were pushed on us because the knowledge about them would destroy the business. Asbestos, tabacco others. That doesn't lead me to jump to conspiracy because things are much more regulated now. But the history is there. We have known for a long time that more efficient combustion engines can be developed but nobody did. An electric car was pitched 20 yrs ago. Imagine where that tech would be now of it wasn't supressed. There is something there. 5G might be another one.

[15444]

Undiagnosed doesn't mean it didn't exist, we just didn't have the tools to identify it. Probably been around in some form or another for a long time. Back then though it wasnt treated it was probably beat out of you.

I am pretty sure the cure was a teaspoon of heroin mixed with a dash of borax and a sprinkle of arsenic while laying down in a tub of leeches.

Such wonderful medicine in the old days. Modern doctors don't know shit.

[farmaholic]

Now we have the Autism "Spectrum" Disorder. Encompassing everything from the mildest to most severe symptoms.

Sometimes I think the increase in diagnosis in Autism, depression, ADHD, Gluten intolerance and such things is overdone. Some people aren't happy unless they or their children have an illness. I am absolutely not saying those conditions don't exist, even in their milder forms, but sometimes I think people think it's popular to be diagnosed to have "something".

Where is the line between ADHD and being a normal "active" kid? There is no way I would let my kid take an antipsychotic to quell "some" hyperactivity. How about a little cognitive reasoning with consequences for poor behavior before medicating them into submission, OR getting them involved in high intensity sports? Once again, I'm not saying there is never a need for drug therapy but it wouldn't be my first choice attempt at helping the kid.

[RD414]

I totally agree Farms, I would like a new study to find out the percentage of kids who took the ritalin for adhd and how it affected their drug use later in life compared to those who didn’t.

[mustardman]

1. The Earth is round
2. Climate change is real and much of it caused By HUMAN activity
3. Vaccines work and DO NOT autism

Oh and jazz electric cars were first built in the early 1800’s , but a good sabotage by the oil industry made sure the internal combustion engine came out on top

[blackpowder]

Undiagnosed doesn't mean it didn't exist, we just didn't have the tools to identify it. Probably been around in some form or another for a long time. Back then though it wasnt treated it was probably beat out of you.

Kinda what I meant Jazz. Shouldve clarified. It was listed as something else. Mental retardation was a big one.
The big change in qualifying parameters has been since the 90s.
It didn't exist in the DSM. Which by the way has had 5 or 6 updates since it's first printing 40 yrs ago. Psychiatry has only been treated as a science for about that long.

[blackpowder]

Now we have the Autism "Spectrum" Disorder. Encompassing everything from the mildest to most severe symptoms.

Sometimes I think the increase in diagnosis in Autism, depression, ADHD, Gluten intolerance and such things is overdone. Some people aren't happy unless they or their children have an illness. I am absolutely not saying those conditions don't exist, even in their milder forms, but sometimes I think people think it's popular to be diagnosed to have "something".

Where is the line between ADHD and being a normal "active" kid? There is no way I would let my kid take an antipsychotic to quell "some" hyperactivity. How about a little cognitive reasoning with consequences for poor behavior before medicating them into submission, OR getting them involved in high intensity sports? Once again, I'm not saying there is never a need for drug therapy but it wouldn't be my first choice attempt at helping the kid.

There are children who benefit from all kinds of treatments.
Parents 'doctor shop'.
The common sense solution of two parent families with healthy and active attachment efforts is not so common.
Going through a diagnosis/ treatment battle right now with my son.
Going out on a limb here, but I don't think autism is a ' behavioral disorder.
Christ, I hate the *** word disorder.

[ColevilleH2S]

... a good sabotage by the oil industry made sure the internal combustion engine came out on top

It was totally the oil industry, nothing to do with physics

[Horse]

Now we have the Autism "Spectrum" Disorder. Encompassing everything from the mildest to most severe symptoms.

Sometimes I think the increase in diagnosis in Autism, depression, ADHD, Gluten intolerance and such things is overdone. Some people aren't happy unless they or their children have an illness. I am absolutely not saying those conditions don't exist, even in their milder forms, but sometimes I think people think it's popular to be diagnosed to have "something".

Where is the line between ADHD and being a normal "active" kid? There is no way I would let my kid take an antipsychotic to quell "some" hyperactivity. How about a little cognitive reasoning with consequences for poor behavior before medicating them into submission, OR getting them involved in high intensity sports? Once again, I'm not saying there is never a need for drug therapy but it wouldn't be my first choice attempt at helping the kid.

I think you are right about everyone wanting to be a victim,and needing a name to put on it. I have always wondered,was there autisim 60yr ago,if there was i didnt know anyone, some kids were slow or not as smart as others,were they instutionalised,or is this a new fenomonin. This seems to be quite common now is it in the water,air food,women wating longer to have babys????
I had polio as a 9yr old spent 3 weeks in hosp,but i walked out and am still going,some wernt so lucky,now some of my problems are old age or possibly a come back from the polio,more studys needed but wouldnt wait a moment to have kids vacinated for desieses but the ridlan,prozac,thing to make the teachers life easier is all wrong . As for sports can you just see a lot of these 300# teachers in the gym,ball diamond,arena? Not trying to be nasty but the teaching profession has sure expanded.


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[grassfarmer]

Here I thought this was going to be an election discussion - whether to elect a party that attracts the "knuckle draggers" as Adler put it or to re-elect the genius Notley.