Hicks or genius in Alberta?

[the big wheel]

What’s going on with these areas where kids aren’t being vaccinated and now outbreaks of various diseases threaten the general public? Is there a problem with mental capacity with these groups or what religion? Anyone know? Seems to be getting worse.

[farmaholic]

What’s going on with these areas where kids aren’t being vaccinated and now outbreaks of various diseases threaten the general public? Is there a problem with mental capacity with these groups or what religion? Anyone know? Seems to be getting worse.

First world problems, where common sense parts ways with reality. When you have the free option to protect your child's(and community's) health and life but choose not to because of some manufactured crisis in their minds that the vaccine is more dangerous than the disease the rest of society and the public health system are trying to prevent.

[Oliver88]

There seems to be a lot of wealthy soccer moms who don’t vaccinate their kids due to something they read on facebook.
Hollywood, California is an example of a wealthy area with a very low immunization rate.

In 2019 you shouldn’t here about measles, mumps, whooping cough outbreaks in North America.

[jazz]

I totally support vaccination, the science and the real life evidence show its totally a life saver.

However, I have issues with the administration. When you take your kid there they are often giving them 2 or 3 different vaccines at the same time which appears to be safe but sometimes a ramped up immune reaction can occur and in older people where that has happened from other similar reactions, the immune system can attack the body itself. I don't know if there is any link to autism from it. We just asked that the shots be spaced out more just as a precaution.

We get the flu shots every few yrs. There is evidence that people who get sick from diseases like flus have an inflammatory reaction when your body has to fight off the infection and that can cause problems down the road. My kids even had some travel shots for stuff not in this country.

[Jay-mo]

What’s going on with these areas where kids aren’t being vaccinated and now outbreaks of various diseases threaten the general public? Is there a problem with mental capacity with these groups or what religion? Anyone know? Seems to be getting worse.

I'm not gonna miss my kids not getting chicken pox thanks to their vaccinations.

[15444]

Time for Polio to get back together with the band for a worldwide reunion tour. They made such a tremendous impact the last time they went on tour. Plus I hear there is a desperate shortage of iron lung assembly line workers. Maybe Smallpox could join in for a limited time, they were such a hit in North America; with such hits as 'Blankets of Blood' and 'Family of 7 Is Now 1'. Brings a tear to my eye, getting all nostalgic for the good old days.

[Guest]

Must be pretty frustrating for health care workers when people listen to an ex porn instead of trained medical professionals

[blackpowder]

Somewhat related.
Currently reading something on autism.
The diagnosis epidemic can be traced to the evolution of autism definition since 1980. Prior to that it didn't exist. In short.
Also, have witnessed some of this first hand. Great mother, believed in vaccines. But not the pamplova for her daughter, "because that's condoning sex".
Really, why do people who need meds stop taking them?? Human psychology is fascinating. Same thing here.
Add in growing mistrust.
But of course, the biggest reason is not one anti vaxxer has ever met a polio victim. Or met a man sterilized by fever.
Or watched someone die from this stuff.
FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Bucket hit the nail on the head.

We have real life examples right here on Agriville. Austranada who believes that big pharma is out to kill everyone, and is spreading his rumours with much enthusiasm. Chuck et al. believe big oil is out to kill everyone, and waste countless hours spreading their propaganda.
And it is working, people read it on the internet, and decide it must be true, no amount of facts can change these type of peoples minds. They are all about ideology, not science, or facts or evidence.

[jazz]

Somewhat related.
Currently reading something on autism.
The diagnosis epidemic can be traced to the evolution of autism definition since 1980. Prior to that it didn't exist. In short

Undiagnosed doesn't mean it didn't exist, we just didn't have the tools to identify it. Probably been around in some form or another for a long time. Back then though it wasnt treated it was probably beat out of you.

[jazz]

Bucket hit the nail on the head.

We have real life examples right here on Agriville. Austranada who believes that big pharma is out to kill everyone, and is spreading his rumours with much enthusiasm. Chuck et al. believe big oil is out to kill everyone, and waste countless hours spreading their propaganda.
And it is working, people read it on the internet, and decide it must be true, no amount of facts can change these type of peoples minds. They are all about ideology, not science, or facts or evidence.

AF they aren't entirely wrong. There have been many example in the past of harmful products that were pushed on us because the knowledge about them would destroy the business. Asbestos, tabacco others. That doesn't lead me to jump to conspiracy because things are much more regulated now. But the history is there. We have known for a long time that more efficient combustion engines can be developed but nobody did. An electric car was pitched 20 yrs ago. Imagine where that tech would be now of it wasn't supressed. There is something there. 5G might be another one.

[15444]

Undiagnosed doesn't mean it didn't exist, we just didn't have the tools to identify it. Probably been around in some form or another for a long time. Back then though it wasnt treated it was probably beat out of you.

I am pretty sure the cure was a teaspoon of heroin mixed with a dash of borax and a sprinkle of arsenic while laying down in a tub of leeches.

Such wonderful medicine in the old days. Modern doctors don't know shit.

[farmaholic]

Now we have the Autism "Spectrum" Disorder. Encompassing everything from the mildest to most severe symptoms.

Sometimes I think the increase in diagnosis in Autism, depression, ADHD, Gluten intolerance and such things is overdone. Some people aren't happy unless they or their children have an illness. I am absolutely not saying those conditions don't exist, even in their milder forms, but sometimes I think people think it's popular to be diagnosed to have "something".

Where is the line between ADHD and being a normal "active" kid? There is no way I would let my kid take an antipsychotic to quell "some" hyperactivity. How about a little cognitive reasoning with consequences for poor behavior before medicating them into submission, OR getting them involved in high intensity sports? Once again, I'm not saying there is never a need for drug therapy but it wouldn't be my first choice attempt at helping the kid.

[RD414]

I totally agree Farms, I would like a new study to find out the percentage of kids who took the ritalin for adhd and how it affected their drug use later in life compared to those who didn’t.

[mustardman]

1. The Earth is round
2. Climate change is real and much of it caused By HUMAN activity
3. Vaccines work and DO NOT autism

Oh and jazz electric cars were first built in the early 1800’s , but a good sabotage by the oil industry made sure the internal combustion engine came out on top