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    #41
    Originally posted by helmach View Post
    umm let me know where you are shopping for inputs. By my budget and price shopping every input to grow a crop is up and not by a little. but hey peasants dont mind working for free right
    That’s for sure. And as far as generics haven’t had a very good success rate with them as far as working. Not sure if they skimp on the additives or what but seems to be conditions have to be perfect or they just don’t do the job the over priced ones do and that’s not saying they work great all the time either but at least you have an argument. With Generics deal is over once your off the lot.

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      #42
      Bucket, when did farming become fixed income or like welfare? I'm pretty sure its still a business. Maybe not in the minds of many today, but that has a way of sorting itself out.

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        #43
        Originally posted by pourfarmer View Post
        Maybe for those who plod along on their families "paid for" land base.

        IMO, it is not equipment that is over capitalizing farmers, its land.
        Land purchase was once described to me as an income tax tool. You pay mortgage interest or you pay income tax.
        I have not followed this advice, possibly to my detriment. Time will tell.

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          #44
          Originally posted by hobbyfrmr View Post
          Land purchase was once described to me as an income tax tool. You pay mortgage interest or you pay income tax.
          I have not followed this advice, possibly to my detriment. Time will tell.
          Hobby...you can earn alot of net incorporated income before you have to pay in the next tier. So for many people "buying or paying" for tax write offs doesn't make sense when you will be saving less than 15 cents of every dollar you spend on a tax write off.

          Buy it because you need it, not to avoid a modest tax bill.

          Probably can't grow a business(land) faster than with tax paid incorporated dollars....but you will pay the piper later if you sell it. Nothing is free.

          Edit in; it all has to be "managed".

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            #45
            If the government was better with taxpayers money it wouldn't bother me to pay taxes.....

            But to listen to this group talk about climate change while jetsetting. ....is annoying. ...

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              #46
              Originally posted by samhill View Post
              Well,https://www.macrotrends.net/2534/wheat-prices-historical-chart-data, in US dollars

              Farmings always been up and down, started in ‘68, wiped out in ‘81, back in about 2014 for a bit.

              Was like that before me, and can happen again.
              Interesting graph. I recall somewhere around 1993(?)the neighborhood always criticized one of my immediate neighbors for his farming practices. Kind of a seed late, leave half over winter, combine in spring, seed late pattern.
              Everyone else did differently, harvest in fall, waited for the wheat board to call contracts and rail cars etc.
              It was May, most guys were out in the field, my neighbor was combining his wheat, delivering straight to the elevator and selling it for $6.00/bushel open market. Same as #1 with protein. The others were pretty choked about this activity!
              This fellow did not farm too much longer, rented out his land and went on to be a heavy equipment mechanic. Works for Suncor in Ft. McMoney. He bought duplex in Ft.Mac. He still lives next door when home. We have an annual drink. A few years back he told me that he never made so much easy money in his life!
              Everybody has their own way.

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