Agristability. S CRAP IT NOW.

[the big wheel]

What irritates me is the premium that has to be paid by a deadline but they have no time limit on their dog****ing....

And do any other industries prepay a premium for their issues...

What was the premium for Evraz's 40 million?

What was the premium for the auto sector's help and forgivable loans?

the ****ing Westons didn't even pay a fine for price fixing and they are back on handouts???

Absolutely true. There is no need to even consider revamping this thing they’ve had how many years to improve it? There shouldn’t even be a premium on crop insurance that would justify all those running around trying to be policemen administering a shit program that only works for the employees.
Speaking of which I had 2 mla s agree with me that the program isn’t just broken but it’s bad. And the response was but we can’t afford to give up those seats in Melville ridings if we cut it out.

This thing has to be demanded scrapped right now because I m also done with hearing so many ag ministers and parties proclaim when they are in power well we encourage producers to enrol and apply to agriststability we know it’s not a fit for all. Wtf it’s not a fit for anyone.
And then on the campaign trail yes we know the program doesn’t work. We need to fix it and it even gets implied to the reporters some of which have no clue that the program will fix everything from the cost of carbon to the pulse trade problem. So get rid of it that way everyone knows we literally have absolutlely nothing to work with it. As hoc is even better you only need people there in times of a disaster. You get cash right on the spot.

Why was it such a problem to have to wait for the wheat board to pay you a year later and why is it ok to have to wait from 2 to God knows how many years for this bullshit to pay out if it does.

[WiltonRanch]

When aida then cais came out my first accountant told me it was a waste of time for me. He quit and I went to a bigger accounting firm whom the first thing was I had to be in it. Told em screw it but several years later in a weak moment i agreed to go ahead. After enough stupid questions and what not I told them to stuff it. Best decision I ever made. When you’re a purely diversified operation the program would never trigger. Even BSE years where a payment might have come I know guys that had to give it back. It’s a mess of program from its beginnings. My opinion is they should scrap the mess and put some effort into fixing crop insurance or even setting up a price insurance program like with cattle. Maybe not a great idea but something to think about.

[farmaholic]

There is probably enough of a cross section, size and financial status, of farms involved in that program(along with their income tax returns) that it is a damn good barometer of the financial health of farms in general. I thought there was a comment made lately that only about 40% of farms are enrolled. Then you have to wonder about regional participation.

[the big wheel]

The way it is run and the mandate is set by the current government.
The facts are that most believe the current methods make it near impossible to trigger a payout. Yet they claim money is going out. I often wonder if this isn’t a direct way to funnel money to certain farms or corporates acting like farms.
Who is checking who gets the money and how?
Does it not seem at least a little bit strange a government program that less then 40% of farmers are enrolled in. Of that 40 possibly 10% are crooks leaving I d guess 15% that legitimately think they will get a payment and then likely 15% that are the one earth broad ass type. When you break it down that way how is this program still functioning and why?
There were once upon a time people that stated that certain farmers had special people to do their files? That even the audit team never sees, wonder if that’s true and if so Why would that be?

[bucket]

I think the program is designed to help people growing a farm ...and that's because government policy is to move to larger farms.....it's better to have one farmer on 100 thousand acre farms with employees than 100 farmers on 1000 acres each....in the political view...


Do you think the federal ag minister wants to hear a bunch of farmers bitch about a seed tax as opposed to the 100000 acre farm that doesn't give a shit. ...it's a cost of business. ....

It's easier to consolidate farms for bureaucratic gain....

They did it with railroads...then elevators and now farms....

[farmaholic]

sask crop insurance and agristability along with the ceo is still a dud !

Fire the ceo and managers and give the federal money to Farmers thru agri invest or by the acre !

Shawn Jaques is doing what every CEO and President does for the Company they oversee....manage it to make sure it makes money! 😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉

[the big wheel]

This is not an attack in any person that works there. They all are doing what they are told to do
Some don’t want to put the responsibility where it belongs which is with our federal and provincial ag departments. It s a failed program working on so many failed and outright wrong factors to decide whether someone is eligible for some disaster type assistance. I think we have all lost sight of what this was intended to do. It s not supposed to be a pay all the time deal it’s supposed to help you out immediately when you suffer huge losses to what ever the disaster may be weather or trade etc.

It should be gone because politicians always go back and say we have something when in fact we have nothing at all we can count on.

The admin cost for this must be huge and for what?

[bucket]

When a verifier at agristability can't read a grain ticket/ stub indicating when grain was delivered....do you think they are qualified for doing their job?


I think not.....

[the big wheel]

When a verifier at agristability can't read a grain ticket/ stub indicating when grain was delivered....do you think they are qualified for doing their job?


I think not.....

Your correct they should be able to do their job. That’s a different issue than the problem that the program doesn’t actually work. Someone that could read a ticket doesn’t mean anyone will get a payout does it?

That is an issue in support of getting rid of it though because that problem has plagued the program since day one. People that don’t understand farming or the tickets or crops etc. Initially yes the buck stops at the cropinsurance head for that stuff but have you not told your mla mp that these problems exist ? I have they know about it and won’t do anything to fix it. But I ll say it again just because someone doing your file is knows what they are doing so what the way the sask party and federal liberals and conservatives changed this thing there is very little if any chance of ever receiving money even in the worse disaster so what’s the point?