Climate Fieldview

[Guest]

Ask them to pay you for that data. See what they say. Do you trust Bayer?

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/2018/05/14/merged-bayer-monsanto-corner-market-farm-data-and-software/607604002/

[tweety]

You seem pretty sure of these claims?
If I do give it a try it won't even be setup through any retail or input supplier, never mind them having access to it.
Or are you making these statements as a general trend of where things are headed? If that's the case then we're screwed whether we use it or not.
If you're really so worried, just calibrate your yield monitor to show bullshit that only you know the actual fudge factor. Am I right?

As soon as it hits that ipad, they have everything. Why do you think it needs a sim card?

It will head that way as long as farmers keep making sure it heads that way. And they will. If you actually read the "lack of privacy" policy you can see it has changed from Climate data only to shared with Bayer. And that you agree and understand that policy can change any time.

Alexa and Siri have demonstrated that privacy is no concern for most people. Farmers will be no different, not even for their own business. The bigger the farmer, the better - that's you SF3

[BreadWinner]

I think all this data gathering is just another monthly bill, first you try it for free then you pay. I just threw the land line phone out the window and it is amazing how good it feels not to come home and check messages. All the data you gather from those fields will be no different than the 1000s of digital photos you have stored away on data cards. Put a extra few bucks in fertilizer instead and you will be further ahead.

[jazz]

You guys realize that you are signing on to a service that you pay for to develop a super intensive management system where you will run over to every little pot hole and try to fix its problem. While you learn the risks and rewards from this approach, this system sits back and harvests the results, bundles that information and then will sell it world wide and give you nothing for it. You are creating a new business model for free and one that you will have to compete with in the future. Its nuts to sign on to this. Facebook did the exact same thing. They should be paying you $3 an acre for this service.

[jazz]

For those wearing the tinfoil, you do know that your own fields are likely getting weekly flyovers the same as subscribers? Thus enabling new subscribers to get up to 3 years of historical info on their fields.

Maybe true, but they don't know what I am doing on my field because I don't tell them.

Say this service tells you that you need a little different formulation on some back 40. You waltz in and buy the product, they assume you put it on get the results then they harvest your information.

Compare this to say I go in and talk to my rep about some field, don't tell him where it is, what part of it etc. How is he going to know anything about the results.

[Jay-mo]

So, I buy my inputs from about 3 or 4 different retails. (I know, I have many options in my area). You're saying they all have direct access to my future Climate account?
For instance, I call up a retail. for a price on N. They go over to their desk, log into my Climate account and "holy moly, this guy pulled off some 100 bushel wheat and 60 canola last year, jack the price of N for this sucker".
Is this correct?

[tweety]

Um, yes. They would be more then willing to pay for it. All the data will be available to them, for a price. And since you are paying to give it to them, well their overhead starts out pretty low.

Why do you think EVERY company has a data system?

And why can't farmers see this!!!!!

[MBgrower]

Completely unnecessary.