What is the bigger problem...

[grassfarmer]

Same area??? Honduras is at 15 degrees NORTH or roughly 1000 miles north of the equator. The southern border of the prairies is 49 degrees NORTH or roughly 3400 miles north of the equator.
In what way do you consider Saskatchewan the same area as "where these people come from"? Are your Saskatchewan coffee crops failing too?

You do illustrate your point very well about stupid people.

I'm guessing fakefarmer3 was speaking from one of his numerous holiday properties around the world?

Farmers have been moving off the land for centuries, moving to the cities, new locations or to different jobs as agriculture falls into less and less hands. Migration of people is not new it's being going on for thousands of years, fluctuating over the years with crisis in various areas of the world driving it. Famine, drought, war, political crisis. The effects of climate change are certainly a driver of increased global migration at the moment and not for the first time an increase in migration leads to an increase in calls to curtail it by affluent people in the destination countries. The issues of climate change and mass migration are definitely connected, both are real and both are occurring.

[furrowtickler]

climate change or illegal immigration? And if you deny climate change is happening, does that mean you condone illegal immigration? An article in today's NYT says 28% of the Hondurans in last year's caravan were farms/farm workers and climate change was one of the reasons they were trying to sneak into US. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/13/world/americas/coffee-climate-change-migration.html?emc=edit_th_190414&nl=todaysheadlin es&nlid=509750830414 https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/13/world/americas/coffee-climate-change-migration.html?emc=edit_th_190414&nl=todaysheadlin es&nlid=509750830414

So similar to the collapse of the Maya civilization and others of South America before the Spanish arrived? And before fossil fuels? Because that is accurately documented. So yes it has happened well before fossil fuels all over the world actually. Human activity has had to deal with climate change all throughout history.
Most natural cycles with some of it compounded by excessive local human populations and the resulting local deterioration of environmental conditions.
All before fossil fuels and carbon tax .
Also earthquakes, and mostly volcanoes 🌋 did a lot of the climate change beside natural changes and cycles .

[Guest]

Furrow , couldnt agree more . Climate change is real , been happening since the beginning of this earth and will be here long after mankind is gone . Imagine how hot the earth was when there were palm trees in the artctic. I am worried about our oceans though . Wished they could stop the polluting all over the world

[sk_wheatking]

When you dont have merit based immigration it becomes a real problem. 90,000 plus a month trying to enter the u.s. now. Most have no intention to live any different than they did where they came from. Eventually these different groups will fight for supremacy in their new land. History will tell you that. I've got nothing against immigration but there will come a time when there will be a war over culture and religion. Its inevitable. People are coming here en masse that have different ideologies and religions. They cant tolerate things in their native countries but they let us believe that they will change if they can come to Canada and the U.S.

[furrowtickler]

When you dont have merit based immigration it becomes a real problem. 90,000 plus a month trying to enter the u.s. now. Most have no intention to live any different than they did where they came from. Eventually these different groups will fight for supremacy in their new land. History will tell you that. I've got nothing against immigration but there will come a time when there will be a war over culture and religion. Its inevitable. People are coming here en masse that have different ideologies and religions. They cant tolerate things in their native countries but they let us believe that they will change if they can come to Canada and the U.S.

Agree
That will eventually, not far off btw, collapse the US economy. There is no way any country can economically sustain that kind of of burden.
Controlled immigration is healthy , uncontrolled immigration is a national economic suicide .
Said it before , watch France , Sweden, Germany..... their cultures and economies are collapsing or will be shortly.

[grassfarmer]

The idea that the US is being swamped by immigrants is rather overplayed considering the percentage of immigrants is still under 14% of the overall population. 14 out of a 100 really isn't that huge.
The figure in Canada is around 20% and we are managing just fine.

[jazz]

The Honduran people are in Honduras because of climate change that happened 10,000 yrs ago. Guess they will try to migrate back across the Bering Sea, or stop in for some social benefits along the way.

[jazz]

Furrow , couldnt agree more . Climate change is real , been happening since the beginning of this earth and will be here long after mankind is gone . Imagine how hot the earth was when there were palm trees in the artctic. I am worried about our oceans though . Wished they could stop the polluting all over the world

I always wondered about that garbage patch in the pacific. I mean my trash all goes to landfill and so does most of the first world so how is it getting out there? Are people dumping it in the oceans, or are people living too close to the water and rogue waves and Tsunamis grabbing their stuff and taking them out to sea.

Might not be getting the full story on that one.

[sk_wheatking]

The idea that the US is being swamped by immigrants is rather overplayed

Yes, maybe for you, but tell that to the people who are being affected by it directly.

[Sheepwheat]

Great friend of mine is a missionary in Honduras.

There is no problem with climate change in that country. Bunch of bunk.

Again.

Just like the polar bear fake stories, and the north is warming faster issue. The alarmists pick places few of us have experience with, and can not easily refute, because we don’t live there. They make claims that are absolutely false.

But ask the locals, and they will call it bunk. Just like when all winter, whenever there is an alarmist piece in the news, I simply go to the weather forecast of the supposed hot spot, look at the current weather, and easily refute the bs they are trying to sell us all.

Am I the only one who does a bit of digging? Sheesh.