16 reasons to vote NDP

[vvalk]

Some food for thought in here.

http://medium.com/@travis.dg.benson/16-reasons-to-vote-for-the-ndp-even-if-you-dont-want-to-a25ff21b8a91?fbclid=IwAR3gXH6-DNzSaNrD_y4q4Lg8NZ3LUTOPcgxUdByRfKwLIqI_ABZZjK1P7n M http://https://medium.com/@travis.dg.benson/16-reasons-to-vote-for-the-ndp-even-if-you-dont-want-to-a25ff21b8a91?fbclid=IwAR3gXH6-DNzSaNrD_y4q4Lg8NZ3LUTOPcgxUdByRfKwLIqI_ABZZjK1P7n M

Times are changing - even in Alberta as a 4th generation rancher also runs for the NDP. Again some good points in here even if you don't agree with his choice of party.

http://www.producer.com/2019/04/alberta-rancher-defies-history-to-run-for-ndp/?source=sharetools&fbclid=IwAR0vxjLDmuD4AesQ-lE3Xp2trJuenpj_QS_zwMmvy-qfuHRe9uCogg3Twmk http://https://www.producer.com/2019/04/alberta-rancher-defies-history-to-run-for-ndp/?source=sharetools&fbclid=IwAR0vxjLDmuD4AesQ-lE3Xp2trJuenpj_QS_zwMmvy-qfuHRe9uCogg3Twmk

He is running in my riding. He will get obliterated. It won’t even be close. . That being said I am getting worried about the overall election. I think Ndp is getting the vote out.

[grassfarmer]

He is running in my riding. He will get obliterated. It won’t even be close...

Likely so, but the fact a rancher of his capability is running is progress in itself.

[grassfarmer]

UCP seems to be a fitting acronym for the Unlimited Corruption Party. As Kenney, who got elected by rigging the vote to beat Jean, stands by his candidate Singh who was investigated for trying to buy off his own fellow nomination candidates and just had his business raided by the RCMP. What a shower!

[Horse]

1. As far as LGBTQ, Jason Kenney has said he fully supports GSA's but that he believes that under certain circumstances parents have the right to know if their kids are in a GSA, something that is not allowed under Bill 24.

2. This same boogeyman was raised about the Harper government and no legislation was ever tabled to limit women's access to abortions.

3. First off no government has accumulated government debt as fast as the present NDP government. Would the Prentiss government run a deficit, no doubt in my mind. As far as the personal tax rate Jason Kenney has said the progressive rate will not be changed until the budget is balanced.

4. NDP massively cut government budgets? Is this person serious? Total spending has increased every year at higher than forecast rates. The electricity balancing pool now has over a $2 billion dollar deficit thanks to NDP mismanagement on this file. They just eliminated private drivers licence testing and it is now all government employees. Wait times are already 3 weeks and increasing. There is no doubt that the alleged kamikaze campaign with Jeff Calloway was a lapse in judgement but looking back at the leadership campaign I voted for who I thought was best suited to lead the party and don't remember what Jeff Calloway said having any influence.

5&6. Realistically most people I know working in the oil industry who still have jobs have taken large pay cuts and reduced hours. Public sector certainly not.

Will continue when time permits.

#3 who gave the present saleries to the civl service,not the NDs, the cons did all that, who left leaving the bill on the table for the NDs to pick up,some one had to pay that the cons.
#4 the cons left the elec industry in a snafu after the attempt at deregulation that turned into reregulation. If your name isnt sing,gill or something you probably had to wait anyway while others were fast tracked.for a drivers lisesnse.
#5/6 No one I know in the public sector was making the kind of money the oil workers were,Klause defending 1500/day men because they work outside in cold and cant sleep in own beds. Teens just out of school driving co pickups at $40/hr, the oil patch colapsed under their own weight worldwide, they had to drop wages,dont see how the gov had a hand in that unless you count on the pipeline the cons never built in 44 yrs and now the NDs are supose to have done in4 YRs.

I know I will never convince any one that only deals with ideaology not real data but 2 more sleeps and we can all crow or cry,am interested in outcome the gov keeps pluging along,it is not affected by world affairs.

As for honesty in the party nominations it is scandalus if the Nds did some of those things I can just imagine the crocadile tears you all would be shedding,

[AlbertaFarmer5]

And, horse came along just in time to prove my point number eight. Not sure why illiteracy and socialism are so intricately connected, but the atrocious spelling and grammar are evidence enough.

[grassfarmer]

And, horse came along just in time to prove my point number eight. Not sure why illiteracy and socialism are so intricately connected, but the atrocious spelling and grammar are evidence enough.

So SF3 is clearly a socialist then? - I guess he just confirmed it by liking your post AF5 lol.

[GALAXIE500]

OMG, you scare me. Grew up and still live in Sakatchewan. Remember the days of Tommy Douglas. Allen Blakeney . Roy Romanow and all their policies to nationalize everything they touched. Be very careful what you wish for!

I will second this statement. I am a 4th generation SK boy, and you Albertan's need to get rid of the NDP ASAP ! Sorry , but they will not do your province anything but give you higher taxes and force people to leave your province. All you have to do is ask us over here in Sask. what they did for us, it's not hard to do.

What we need to do is cut off all transfer payments to Ontario and Quebec , regardless of laws, and legislation and maybe then we can get our country back on track again.

[the big wheel]

I will second this statement. I am a 4th generation SK boy, and you Albertan's need to get rid of the NDP ASAP ! Sorry , but they will not do your province anything but give you higher taxes and force people to leave your province. All you have to do is ask us over here in Sask. what they did for us, it's not hard to do.

What we need to do is cut off all transfer payments to Ontario and Quebec , regardless of laws, and legislation and maybe then we can get our country back on track again.

Yes that was scarey alright but we re headed in either extreme. We have the other side bought and paid for by the oil industry which is an industry whether we admit it or not is not he future of mainstream energy. We are putting all our eggs in one basket and we ve seen how that works out even with 120 barrel oil. The farmers of the country end up paying the bill for the losses due to that all in one basket mentality.
Tech and manufacturing are the future we should be creating an business environment where it’s favourable for those sectors to thrive. Instead we have the carbon nuts on one side and the oil is everything bought off nuts on the other. Us people in the middle are paying for both of those extremes to exist. We re brainwashed as a group.

[jazz]

And nobody should forget what they did to the hospitals in this province. Shut down the one dedicated to rural south sask and put up a new one in Saskatoon city core. Now Stoon has 4 bloody hospitals and Regina has two ancient ones barely holding together. Plus dozens of other smaller centers gutted for what? Romanow should be in federal prison.

[furrowtickler]

And nobody should forget what they did to the hospitals in this province. Shut down the one dedicated to rural south sask and put up a new one in Saskatoon city core. Now Stoon has 4 bloody hospitals and Regina has two ancient ones barely holding together. Plus dozens of other smaller centers gutted for what? Romanow should be in federal prison.

Ahh the Union vote ... they just pandered to their voter base . No different than what JT is currently doing .

[jazz]

Tech and manufacturing are the future we should be creating an business environment where it’s favourable for those sectors to thrive. Instead we have the carbon nuts on one side and the oil is everything bought off nuts on the other. Us people in the middle are paying for both of those extremes to exist. We re brainwashed as a group.

Wheel you are dead wrong. Tech and manufacturing are not our future. Those get outsourced to cheaper locations and will eventually automated. We just watched it for the last 25 yrs. Resources are our future because we have them, other don't and they are labour intensive so unlikely to be disrupted and they cant be outsourced to some guy in india, nor are foreign workers likley to come in here and work in the brutal conditions.

[SASKFARMER]

Saskatchewan people know what years of NDP does to a province.

NEVER AGAIN>

[the big wheel]

[QUOTE=jazz;408110]Wheel you are dead wrong. Tech and manufacturing are not our future. Those get outsourced to cheaper locations and will eventually automated. We just watched it for the last 25 yrs. Resources are our future because we have them, other don't and they are labour intensive so unlikely to be disrupted and they cant be outsourced to some guy in india, nor are foreign workers likley to come in here and work in the brutal conditions.[/

A balanced approach yes. But all in to an industry that is not the future is beyond dumb.
As far as tech goes I m not talking about making a cheaper can opener. I m talking about efficient electrical engines, computer systems etc. One of the biggest reasons we can’t develop many other industries is our energy costs. We ve been brainwashed into thinking high energy cost is good price of oil!! Lol how dumb. That only takes away from all the other things we should be doing. A more sustainable forest industry clean water etc etc. Those will be the demand of the future and you will need better tech to see it improve.

[jazz]

A balanced approach yes. But all in to an industry that is not the future is beyond dumb.
As far as tech goes I m not talking about making a cheaper can opener. I m talking about efficient electrical engines, computer systems etc. One of the biggest reasons we can’t develop many other industries is our energy costs. We ve been brainwashed into thinking high energy cost is good price of oil!! Lol how dumb. That only takes away from all the other things we should be doing. A more sustainable forest industry clean water etc etc. Those will be the demand of the future and you will need better tech to see it improve.

if you mean tech applied to resource extraction and sustainability, I am 100% in agreement. Not the other kind like social media, chips and phones and robotics. We will not compete in that space nor should we try.

There is no place on the planet that has the abundance of resource riches that we do. Not a single one and we are going to f it up with out SJW navel gazing stupidity. We have every major resource in spades plus 10% of the worlds water, a boreal forest bigger than the amazon. Our biggest deficit is smart people.

[Hamloc]

[QUOTE=Horse;408100]#3 who gave the present saleries to the civl service,not the NDs, the cons did all that, who left leaving the bill on the table for the NDs to pick up,some one had to pay that the cons.
#4 the cons left the elec industry in a snafu after the attempt at deregulation that turned into reregulation. If your name isnt sing,gill or something you probably had to wait anyway while others were fast tracked.for a drivers lisesnse.


Horse read the article in the Financial Post: "Albertans are about to find out just how messy and expensive kicking the coal habit can be". This will explain how the NDP's decisions cost the taxpayer $2.3 billion!

As for drivers testing we went from private testing where testers worked 6 days a week 8-6 to provincial employees working 5 days a week 8-5. Now we taxpayers pay their benefits including a company vehicle plus the cost of the test is the same. And now there a waiting lists where there wasn't before.