often wonder

[MBgrower]

Pacifism only works if someone is willing to protect you and allow such beliefs.

Everyone being a pacifist makes it real easy pickings for motivated guys like Hitler and Stalin.

If shit ever hit the fan in North America, you'd see the pacifists cut and run real quick, just like they always have.

Agree. for all the mennonites, and huts and others that refused to fight in ww2, we would all be speaking german. They basically let others fight their wars, while the preach peace.

[grassfarmer]

Agree. for all the mennonites, and huts and others that refused to fight in ww2, we would all be speaking german. They basically let others fight their wars, while the preach peace.

That's a little unfair. While it's true pacifists don't fight for their country in a time of war they equally don't cause wars. If everyone were pacifist there would be no wars. It certainly causes friction when you have pacifists living amongst non-pacifists - in Scotland we had a farm family that were conscientious objectors and during/after WW1 they expanded greatly by marrying into farms where the sons were away or never returned from war. It's taken a couple of generations for that stigma to wear off.

[blackpowder]

The human animal when stressed will act on impulses as old as life itself.

The rest is buffalo chips.

[dalek]

That's a little unfair. While it's true pacifists don't fight for their country in a time of war they equally don't cause wars. If everyone were pacifist there would be no wars. It certainly causes friction when you have pacifists living amongst non-pacifists - in Scotland we had a farm family that were conscientious objectors and during/after WW1 they expanded greatly by marrying into farms where the sons were away or never returned from war. It's taken a couple of generations for that stigma to wear off.

Exactly how the Hutterites got where they are. Initially in WWI the Hutts and Quakers both refused to serve. After the rules were changed so objectors could serve in non-combat roles the Quakers showed extreme bravery as medics and stretcher beaters and died like flies. The Hutterites stayed home and made money hand over fist.

[blackpowder]

A few hutts actually died in US military prisons during First War.

[grassfarmer]

Exactly how the Hutterites got where they are. Initially in WWI the Hutts and Quakers both refused to serve. After the rules were changed so objectors could serve in non-combat roles the Quakers showed extreme bravery as medics and stretcher beaters and died like flies. The Hutterites stayed home and made money hand over fist.

The Hutterites didn't move to Canada until 1918 and they moved with the assurance of military exemption.