Scheer leaves himself open to claims he’s in cahoots with Big Oil

[jazz]

Let me repeat the price of oil has gone up and down numerous times in my lifetime and politicians had very little to do with the change in price.

Just trying to be a realist. We need more of that here in this country instead of unicorns and fairy tales.

Just to educate you on oil. That heavy crude has another $5-8 per bbl in it just by sitting ready to tanker at tidewater. More to the market than just some posted price you watch on the news.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Yes there is probably a limit to how much renewables can be used in the current system scenario. But a lot of those problems will probably be a non issue once affordable storage is available and we build a smart grid.

I won't be paying anyone for getting rid of excess solar power because the system can be easily shut off with a switch. Excess power is the least of our worries at this point.

You missed the point completely. Yes, you can and will have to shut it off to avoid paying someone else to take your power, since there is no someone else in Western Canada(which is what Germany does, sells excess to their less gullible neighbors and has caused their power rates to sky rocket). But now do an economic analysis on your grid tied system when you never get paid for the excess, but still have to pay for the shortfall.

Of course, you could always just wait for the long promised affordable energy storage to be your salvation. Are you aware that while we have been waiting for promised battery costs to budge even incrementally ( since they are already approaching their physical limits), the COP for shale oil has declined by multiples, thanks to human ingenuity, and free market forces.

Ask utilities and electrical engineers what the potential problems and solutions are. You are making a lot of sweeping claims without the facts or numbers from utilities.

All I know is my 25 kw system has produced 3.3 times what I used in the past 3 months including February the coldest snowiest month we had. But according to some, solar is not viable and doesn't work in western Canada! Wrong. It works 12 months of the year.

You completely ignore what I just asked you. It works 12 months of the year because everyone else is willing(forced) to subsidize your folly by providing backup storage for you, by buying your excess, and giving it back at the same rate when the sun doesn't shine. That only works until a few more crony capitalists such as yourself decide to take advantage of the generosity of everyone else to subsidize their virtue signalling. A smart grid and smart meters will result in the a drastic difference in the price you get paid for your excess vs. the price you pay for your shortfall, so don't hope too hard for that one to happen. Please come back and show us the numbers when you have added on site storage, and eliminated your grid tie. If the numbers still work, then I will be installing the next day.

[blackpowder]

That's why we have social programs like EI and Social assistance or do you want us to bail out the oil companies who made bad decisions because the price of oil fell?

Poorly capitalized? Huh? We have advantages and disadvantages as a country and we are still one of the best places in the world to live and work with high incomes and a high standard of living.

Oil is important but we have a very diverse economy as a nation. Resources are always going to be important in Canada but that shouldn't stop us from diversifying our economy and building a sustainable future based on a changing world.

The picture you paints is of a struggling country stuck in the past. That is so far from reality for most Canadians. Many of the disadvantages you mention are actually advantages in many cases: Too much land, a small population and too far north. Maybe add to the list too many trees, too much fresh water, too much hydro power, and too much good soil! My we have big problems!

I am glad that there are whole lot more positive people out there who don't listen to all the negativity.

Let me repeat the price of oil has gone up and down numerous times in my lifetime and politicians had very little to do with the change in price.

Then plow Mother Earth for cash and invest in education and industry development with that new cash.
At this point in time I can't see where else the money is going to come from.

[rumrocks]

Electric cars for city commuters will continue to grow in popularity, with delay's in colder climates until battery technology makes it safe and dependable for every day use. Electric cars will evolve much quicker than their gasoline cousins as most of what works and what doesn't work has already been done, except for the battery. There will be explosions as manufactures compete to have the fastest recharge times.
The power grid system will be stressed during extreme hot and cold periods with furnaces, air conditioners and charging two cars per household. Some people will add solar panels and battery systems to their homes which may or may not be cost effective.
Charging stations will become commonplace in most areas limited in size by the amperage they use.

But I don't understand where the carbon free energy will come from to supply the amperage that is placed in that battery . . . does it all come down to storage batteries as wind and solar are usually quiet in the dark.
Can the power grid handle the huge increase in gigajoules . . . . . gasoline gigajoules are sent down pipelines to refineries then onto truck tanker as opposed to copper wire lines . . . . I see warm copper in the future.

[Guest]

Electric cars for city commuters will continue to grow in popularity, with delay's in colder climates until battery technology makes it safe and dependable for every day use. Electric cars will evolve much quicker than their gasoline cousins as most of what works and what doesn't work has already been done, except for the battery. There will be explosions as manufactures compete to have the fastest recharge times.
The power grid system will be stressed during extreme hot and cold periods with furnaces, air conditioners and charging two cars per household. Some people will add solar panels and battery systems to their homes which may or may not be cost effective.
Charging stations will become commonplace in most areas limited in size by the amperage they use.

But I don't understand where the carbon free energy will come from to supply the amperage that is placed in that battery . . . does it all come down to storage batteries as wind and solar are usually quiet in the dark.
Can the power grid handle the huge increase in gigajoules . . . . . gasoline gigajoules are sent down pipelines to refineries then onto truck tanker as opposed to copper wire lines . . . . I see warm copper in the future.

"where will the energy come from to charge all these batteries" ?
such a simple , yet monumental question that none of the dipshits have bothered to answer or attempt to figure out ?
mind boggling that seemingly intelligent people can be so incredibly simple when they are radicalized into the "cult of global warming"

[fjlip]

All the electricity will magically appear, poof! You can add BILLIONS in infrastructure we don't have, all the while EMITTING CO2 from construction/generation.

mind boggling that seemingly intelligent people can be so incredibly simple when they are radicalized into the "cult of global warming

I agree, sickening listening to that type in the news/on TV is a ridiculous as the movie "IDIOCRACY", was on last month.

[Integrity_Farmer]

Alberta energy is Fools Gold. Who pays for the clean up left by the oil industry. Norway has a trillion dollar heritage fund from their North Sea oil. Alberta has a polluted mess and a huge liability of 260 billion dollars.

From CTV
Cleaning up the Alberta oilpatch could cost an estimated $260 billion, internal regulatory documents warn.

The staggering financial liabilities for the energy industry’s mining waste and graveyard of spent facilities were spelled out by a high-ranking official of the Alberta Energy Regulator (AER) in a presentation to a private audience in Calgary in February.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4617664/cleaning-up-albertas-oilpatch-could-cost-260-billion-regulatory-documents-warn/

[blackpowder]

Then don't clean it up stupid. Nobody else in world is. Norway's is off shore remember?
Raise the standards high enough, nothing passes. Gee, it's not that bad.

[Guest]

"where will the energy come from to charge all these batteries" ?
such a simple , yet monumental question that none of the dipshits have bothered to answer or attempt to figure out ?
mind boggling that seemingly intelligent people can be so incredibly simple when they are radicalized into the "cult of global warming"

None of you experts have answered this question?
It is a really valid question ????

[Guest]

None of you experts have answered this question?
It is a really valid question ????

anyone ?????? i really want to know