Can Canada Survive?

[jazz]

The Libs are disaster but maybe something else is baked in the cards nobody can stop.

Spend a few minutes with these population pyramids. Despite tons of immigration, our country is aging into oblivion. Only the prairies have a youngish population. Some places like BC are beyond hope. Will we start to have to import a million people a yr and pay for them to get on their feet to reverse this because that's what appears to have to happen to stop this trend.

when people only had 2 kids and both parents started working to pay the insane bills that was the death knell of our country.

http://population-pyramids.github.io/#/Capital%252C%2520BC/Canada Canadian Population Pyramids

[farmaholic]

A victim of our/their own "success"?

Young adults are buying and building houses their parents only hoped to retire into.

[bucket]

Financing homes is a whole lot different than when I was younger let alone my parents.....first thing was I had to find 25 percent cash to put into it along with a good job etc....

Not so much now...

If you are earning 50,000 a year and you are buying a 500000 dollar home ....most don't have 125k floating around...nor could they save that much...


200 bucks is how tight most budgets are....

[jazz]

This is why I think socialism is our destiny. Too many old poor people and too many young poor people. All will demand more from the govt to make ends meet.

[bucket]

This is why I think socialism is our destiny. Too many old poor people and too many young poor people. All will demand more from the govt to make ends meet.

Its been tried...In Russia....I think Putin helped put an end to it....At least in Agriculture...Look at their performance...

[blueversi]

The Libs are disaster but maybe something else is baked in the cards nobody can stop.

Spend a few minutes with these population pyramids. Despite tons of immigration, our country is aging into oblivion. Only the prairies have a youngish population. Some places like BC are beyond hope. Will we start to have to import a million people a yr and pay for them to get on their feet to reverse this because that's what appears to have to happen to stop this trend.

when people only had 2 kids and both parents started working to pay the insane bills that was the death knell of our country.

http://population-pyramids.github.io/#/Capital%252C%2520BC/Canada Canadian Population Pyramids

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People of child bearing age in Canada would sooner have a couple pets that lick their own ass then lick the owner on the face than raise a child and have to change a diaper. Only ones having children to any extent are immigrants and natives.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

This is why I think socialism is our destiny. Too many old poor people and too many young poor people. All will demand more from the govt to make ends meet.

A couple of comments.

Zeihan in Calgary noted that immigration isn't helping as much as we think. Most American immigrants walk across the border, most of them are young adults or old kids, with their entire working life ahead of them to contribute. Canada mostly accepts 30 somethings or up, with half of their careers already behind them, and they don't have enough career ahead of them to make up for the years they will be retired.

As for socialism, this is out of character for me, but I really think the only solution to the economic problem our demographics will cause is going to have to be parallel systems. In an era when we have excess energy, food, most other resources, housing, plus automation, etc. it could be possible to provide enough motivation to keep the ambitious and capable producing without taxing them out of their motivation, while allowing the young and old and incapacitated( or just plain useless and better off not in the work force) to live a respectable life. With coordinated responsible money printing. There just doesn't seem to be any other way forward that won't completely kill the tax paying sector of society, or else leave people starving in the streets.

[jazz]

There just doesn't seem to be any other way forward that won't completely kill the tax paying sector of society, or else leave people starving in the streets.

I have it on good information that the liberals aren't done taxing yet. hearing capital gains and dividends from stocks are next on the hit list.

[rumrocks]

Liberals will be all hands when it comes to capital gains, remember there are hundreds of small villages in Africa that need parking meters and energy efficient replacement refrigerators for their subway systems.

[jazz]

Canadas median income by riding. Keep those numbers in mind when you think about the costs of living in some of these places and the govt going after more tax revenue. Not sustainable.

http://338canada.com/map-income Median household income per electoral district

[farmaholic]

I can't find the legend, not even in the link.

[jazz]

I can't find the legend, not even in the link.

Click on each riding and a pop up loads showing the income. For reference darker green is more money.

Ft Mac, NW Calgary and Sherwood Park top incomes in Canada

[fjlip]

Link shows 338 Canada voting projections, nothing with income?

[GDR]

My suspicion would be that some of those green areas may have higher avg incomes but would think the population income would be more even. When you look at Vancouver, Montral, GTA, Ottawa I bet there are more extremes on both ends of rich and poor, add a couple million struggling poor families and that would bring those regions avg down. Also likely that the richer end in those areas have enough shell companies and backroom deals that the taxable income maybe doesnt show as high as it should.