Wow Ag More than Ever.

[Sheepwheat]

No one is forcing farmers with guns at our heads to choose that ridiculous model, or spend so much on seeding wheat that you need 80 to survive, or expanding for no reason or paying stupid rent.

Stop blaming everyone but the farmers who are DOING THIS TO THEMSELVES!!

I can pencil nicely. But my costs are low. I choose to farm that way. I have a 2000 dollar harrow, my entire machinery fleet is like a sixth of that one piece of machinery that everyone seems to have to have to farm, and I am good with that. Most guys now have sc****rs and cats and trackhoes to make more acres that are worth more than my basic farming fleet combined. Their choice,not governments or anyone else’s.

What makes me sick is this expectation that farmers are somehow owed a millionaire living no matter how stupidly they spend when times get a bit tough. We aren’t owed a living when we overspend, when we base our lives on greed and dollars, and forever 12 dollar canola. Is this really rocket science?

I do not feel bad for anyone who can’t deal with 9 dollar canola and 5 dollar wheat.

I am asking for a friend: since when are farmers guaranteed a life of luxury? Since when are commodity prices set in stone, and 9 dollar canola the end of the world? Since when do we not take responsibility for our own insane choices?

Crybabies! Whiners! Pathetic is what this is.

[jazz]

So the govt has this sort of right. Bridge guys over and then start chasing new markets. We cant be reliant on any single country in this business especially china. Canada always had dozens of customers for its products.

[Hopalong]

Have to agree with Sheepwheat.
After a number of profitable years grain farming, we are overdue for correction.
Better to keep our own operations in order than call on others to cut back.
See same response among some U.S. farmers to declining profitability.
Calls for others to reduce production.

[Partners]

Growing more will only amplify problem.
Are we like the auto sector and worked ourselves out of a job?
Nobody wants or needs our grain..
Maybe this cold shit weather..drought..is a blessing in descise.

[hobbyfrmr]

Oh but their accountants tell them they are in the top 5% in the area now instead of 1%.

When your farm is 30000 acres and all you own with a massive mortgage on 3000 acres and have men machinery and all the toys. Someone show me how this model works. Must be the new math because this guy sees red for the year.

So is it Ag stab and Private insurance whoever gets huge checks from these two programs explain.

Just asking for a friend because all I know I would make more money seeding nothing this year and just fly to Florida Friday and come back to spray one app if May June and July.

Actually, it sounds better each day to just head home and forget about farming this year.

I have about 5 large farms around me and they can show you. 10-15 years very good crops, graduated to better equipment and hire a majority of good people. They are organized and productive. They bought land at market value which has increased in value at least 2.5x. If they decide to “stop” farming they will be multi millionaires in farmland and more than likely enough cash to get through a couple of decades if they are careful spending.
Not every large farmer is going to implode.

[SASKFARMER]

Yea really any one who expanded the last 5 years is close to broke if land drops 10% and prices drop to the levels I posted.

No it’s not about making farmers millionaires it’s about a useless federal gov that caused this shit show and most of the others we have to deal with.

If it was normal trade with us not screwing up I wouldn’t care but this is all the liberals fault and Trudeau.

Yea grass I came home in spring and thought it would be solved and basis was good for fall with the price. But as it evolved I see a big problem. So yea I’ll build bins and store as long as I can but eventually you have to sell. Bags won’t work. Another problem is they are going to travel all over the place to get sales for our product. Ah these countries are bidding in the $8.00 area. Ah productive at these expenses.

Reality is it’s a loan that will get some in bigger problems. I can’t stop laughing at the comment that 15 years of good crops and going from 3000 to 15000 with massive debt is going to make it and guys with no debt and equity up the ass won’t.

Oh hutts will rule the province is another laugh.

Follow the money the investors get nervous shit goes south.

Ah history repeats and some don’t get it.

[Bowerpower]

Yea really any one who expanded the last 5 years is close to broke if land drops 10% and prices drop to the levels I posted.

No it’s not about making farmers millionaires it’s about a useless federal gov that caused this shit show and most of the others we have to deal with.

If it was normal trade with us not screwing up I wouldn’t care but this is all the liberals fault and Trudeau.

Yea grass I came home in spring and thought it would be solved and basis was good for fall with the price. But as it evolved I see a big problem. So yea I’ll build bins and store as long as I can but eventually you have to sell. Bags won’t work. Another problem is they are going to travel all over the place to get sales for our product. Ah these countries are bidding in the $8.00 area. Ah productive at these expenses.

Reality is it’s a loan that will get some in bigger problems. I can’t stop laughing at the comment that 15 years of good crops and going from 3000 to 15000 with massive debt is going to make it and guys with no debt and equity up the ass won’t.

Oh hutts will rule the province is another laugh.

Follow the money the investors get nervous shit goes south.

Ah history repeats and some don’t get it.

So let history repeats itself.... shit goes south, the guys that over extended themselves are done. Land prices go down and voila young guys have a chance to enter the industry and get going and other established farms have a chance to expand for the next generation All things are cyclical. It’s all about timing I guess.

[Horse]

Follow the money shit goes south, bit of irony there wouldnt you think LOL

[bucket]

Is the money the steel companies got repayable?

Is the money the Westons got repayable?

A lot of billions to the auto sector and bombardier were written off and the jobs still left....and maybe no one noticed the price of vehicles lately...


Why are we expected to take on debt to be repaid at a lower price?

Will the money to Richardson and viterra be repayable?

[bucket]

For **** sakes they gave Nature Conservancy of Canada 100 million the other day....that definitely isn't repayable...