Cold ..

[furrowtickler]

Maybe furrow can answer this question that's been bugging me for years.....


If guys want to put 5 pounds of canola out when it's cold and lose 50 percent ...why don't they just seed later at 2.5 pounds and save money?

I get what you saying but for most it’s a time management thing as well.
Would be nice to seed all canola in the 5 day perfect window but that’s not a reality on most farms , especially the larger ones.

[bucket]

I get what you saying but for most it’s a time management thing as well.
Would be nice to seed all canola in the 5 day perfect window but that’s not a reality on most farms , especially the larger ones.

But its sitting in cold ground....there are some crops in the ground for over a week now without even germinating....oh and did I mention the dry cold dirt its in????

[the big wheel]

Maybe furrow can answer this question that's been bugging me for years.....


If guys want to put 5 pounds of canola out when it's cold and lose 50 percent ...why don't they just seed later at 2.5 pounds and save money?

It’s mostly to make sure they don’t have an income tax problem later on.

[bucket]

It’s mostly to make sure they don’t have an income tax problem later on.

Then why didn't they seed while there wasn't any snow and slice it into frozen ground in January?????

[the big wheel]

Then why didn't they seed while there wasn't any snow and slice it into frozen ground in January?????

Tractor wouldn’t start it was minus 45!!!
Duhhhhh.

[furrowtickler]

In all fairness this past week there was not one forecast that called for it to be this cold at nights .... not one .
Regardless what some larger guys do is simply start seeding canola at 5.5 to 6 lbs then trim back as conditions get warmer .
They will end up a 3 to 3.5 lbs
It seems to work out ok for them.
It’s just the early stuff takes a beating the majority of the time .

[Oliver88]

Drew Lerner now calling for more cold nights......brrrr.

[Rareearth]

Good I hope Drew is right, could use a cold June and July. Now did he mention any rain?

[fjlip]

Drew Lerner now calling for more cold nights......brrrr.

When do Climate Change Nazis start saying it's F*CKING cold due to TOO MUCH CO2?

[furrowtickler]

I started this thread cause I was curious if any early crop was emerging yet .
Back in the late ‘90’s I was working with a seed treatment company that had access to a temperature sensitive polymer coating for late fall seeded crops .
We played with fall seeded canola into cold soil as late as possible.
Canola came up very well in mid April .
But .... the spring was exactly like this , vary warm April then cold into mid May .
Canola came up great by around the 15-16th . The only bad thing is it never froze at night for the first week after emergence, then it hit -8 and -10 . Lost er all.
The year before it worked well in trials but at emergence and almost every night after it froze and like volunteers stayed healthy and established a good crop.
I can’t remember the company that had the temperature sensitive polymer but they claim it was in use in fall seeded crops in Europe but I don’t know that .
It was interesting to see trails anyway .

[checking]

For all the overnight freezing, including this morning, I was surprised that the spring wheat has popped up around here. It looks really good.

The grass in the hay fields have not suffered, and the alfalfa leaves are okay, but the buds are fairly chalk hardened, and showing little flexibility. That may be a problem should this ice age not end.

[grassfarmer]

We do something like that with legume seed furrow - broadcast in the fall so it's ready to go in the spring and it works well enough.
When you guys are saying it's too cold to seed are you really saying the soil is too cold or are you saying it's really just to early in the calendar year due to frost risk of a germinated crop? If the soil is cold enough presumably it wouldn't germinate at all in which case it can sit and wait until it is warm enough. How long can canola, wheat or peas sit ungerminated in cold soil before they take hurt?

[Rareearth]

That’s interesting furrow.

I’ll continue to weigh the options and situation, with soil temp, weather forecasts, and calendar.

We have a short growing season where it’s much easier to look at the current situation and determine what the risks are. The intangible or I should say unknown is when we receive the first killing frost in the fall. We are well overdue now for a early frost event.

Question of the day,
“ if you could seed your whole farm on one day, what date would that be?” All things considered.

Central sask May 5 here

[bucket]

For all the overnight freezing, including this morning, I was surprised that the spring wheat has popped up around here. It looks really good.

The grass in the hay fields have not suffered, and the alfalfa leaves are okay, but the buds are fairly chalk hardened, and showing little flexibility. That may be a problem should this ice age not end.

My new grass looks like shit and the foxtail and dandelions are pissing me off....

lots of hurt on the stands

[sumdumguy]

That’s interesting furrow.

I’ll continue to weigh the options and situation, with soil temp, weather forecasts, and calendar.

We have a short growing season where it’s much easier to look at the current situation and determine what the risks are. The intangible or I should say unknown is when we receive the first killing frost in the fall. We are well overdue now for a early frost event.

Question of the day,
“ if you could seed your whole farm on one day, what date would that be?” All things considered.

Central sask May 5 here

Usually May 5, but today minus 9 at 6 AM kinda murky.