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    #11
    Originally posted by Braveheart View Post
    I think the numbers are that every one percent of organic matter inthe soil equals 12,000 lbs of carbon. The last time we we are able to establish a cover crop we boosted organic matter by 1.5% in one year only. Amazing. But to think that represented 18,000 lbs of carbon?! If that doesn't get the climate dingbats' attention then their agenda is motivated by something other than climate.
    As an added bonus, the higher the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere, the more carbon the soil is able to sequester as well, making the modern beneficially elevated levels of CO2 even more advantageous for farmers and humanity in general.

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      #12
      Every policy coming from progressives is always about envy and victimhood and oppression and shame and blame.

      If the world was really ending in 12 yrs you think we wouldnt be actually preparing like relocating cities off the coast? Nah, its all a scam.

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        #13
        Originally posted by jazz View Post
        Every policy coming from progressives is always about envy and victimhood and oppression and shame and blame.

        If the world was really ending in 12 yrs you think we wouldnt be actually preparing like relocating cities off the coast? Nah, its all a scam.
        Property right on the ocean fronts IS NOT decreasing in value, sea levels NOT changing, lies lies lies!

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          #14
          Originally posted by Braveheart View Post
          I think the numbers are that every one percent of organic matter inthe soil equals 12,000 lbs of carbon. The last time we we are able to establish a cover crop we boosted organic matter by 1.5% in one year only. Amazing. But to think that represented 18,000 lbs of carbon?! If that doesn't get the climate dingbats' attention then their agenda is motivated by something other than climate.
          How were you able to add 1500 lbs of nitrogen per acre in 1 year? Based on C:N of 1:10 to 1:12.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Braveheart View Post
            I think the numbers are that every one percent of organic matter inthe soil equals 12,000 lbs of carbon. The last time we we are able to establish a cover crop we boosted organic matter by 1.5% in one year only. Amazing. But to think that represented 18,000 lbs of carbon?! If that doesn't get the climate dingbats' attention then their agenda is motivated by something other than climate.
            I've been happy to see organic matter dramatically increase too but only to find out later it isn't possible to increase at the rates being talked about today. There is more than one kind of organic matter apparently - a long term stable "true" organic matter and a shorter term, almost seasonally functioning type. Talk to Martin Entz at UofM and he could explain it better but here is an article with some numbers about increasing soil OM 1% in a year.
            http://extension.psu.edu/can-i-increase-soil-organic-matter-by-1-this-year http://https://extension.psu.edu/can-i-increase-soil-organic-matter-by-1-this-year

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              #16
              So long as we are growing canola and pulses, organic matter is not going to increase. That would require crops with greater biomass so mostly cereals, hemp, corn, even alfalfa and hay. So the govt should pay farmers to go into a cereal hay rotation, might as well make the leap to organic then too.

              There are so many more ideas out there than a stupid tax but our politicians are near retarded so it never gets figured out.

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                #17
                Jazzman..... I think you should refine your O.M. statement. Canola and peas can have alot of biomass, combines can smash the residue up to smithereens and maybe appear to be less than there actually is /was. Lentils and flax on the other hand....not so much, especially the short stature lentils and we all know what most people do with flax straw.

                In my farming career our dirt has never been mellower than it is now. I wish continuous cropping had the same affect on my personality....i just keep getting harder and more miserably bitter.
                Last edited by farmaholic; May 5, 2019, 13:43.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Braveheart View Post
                  I think the numbers are that every one percent of organic matter inthe soil equals 12,000 lbs of carbon. The last time we we are able to establish a cover crop we boosted organic matter by 1.5% in one year only. Amazing. But to think that represented 18,000 lbs of carbon?! If that doesn't get the climate dingbats' attention then their agenda is motivated by something other than climate.
                  It's impossible that you raised your organic matter 1.5% in one year. Maybe 0.15%

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                    #19
                    Every year I raise the OM of large problem areas by multiple percentage points, but it takes hundreds of tons of composted manure and or peat moss per acre to do it.

                    As for canola, every climate is different, but around here, it returns the most above ground biomass of any annual crop. Twice we have silaged failed canola crops and had 14 tons per acre, and that was the poor crops that got silaged, not the heavy stands. I'd guess that we seem to grow twice as much biomass to get the same yield as drier areas do. It may not add a lot of OM in the root system, but contribute massively to thatch on the surface, and it takes years to break down.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by jazz View Post
                      So long as we are growing canola and pulses, organic matter is not going to increase. That would require crops with greater biomass so mostly cereals, hemp, corn, even alfalfa and hay. So the govt should pay farmers to go into a cereal hay rotation, might as well make the leap to organic then too.

                      There are so many more ideas out there than a stupid tax but our politicians are near retarded so it never gets figured out.
                      I think you can forget about any reward from growing alfalfa as it’s food for planet destroying cows

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