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    #37
    We all lose. Trump signalling subsidies to affected farmers. Market signals are no more.

    The Chinese will never surrender. It's that dignity thing. They won't lose face. This will be Trumo's Vietnam.

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      #38
      Originally posted by the big wheel View Post
      How many American companies outsource work to China? Those aren’t just Chinese companies involved with the tariffs.
      Jazz just said that. **** you socialists are slow on the uptake. This is to largely to penalize the sins of American companies who sourced labor overseas. Make their stocks drop like a rock until they either sink or come back to the US. You are either with America or against it.

      This isn't new information. Did all the Commies in North America just wake up? Trump told everyone from the start, USA will come first before all others! Bring jobs back to America or pay the price! No more handouts! It was stupid Canada and Mexico that thought they could join for the ride - ****ing morons. You are not America, you are their welfare ****ty sister who let's anyone have a piece. Neither country could keep their mouths shut when making personal comments about Trump, so now they pay the price. And we still have 5 more years to go until Ivanka is President because I doubt the Democrats will be able to keep the Unions and Ultra Socialist Left from fighting with each other before then.

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        #39
        Originally posted by Braveheart View Post
        Today Trump said the Chinese are paying the tariffs. 2 sentences later he said if importers don't want to pay the tariffs they should buy goods from other than China. Which is it? We know importers pay the tariffs which means US consumers.

        He's nuts. Just cause you think he's right wing doesn't make him right.
        The prices will come down to remain competitive but retail will increase prices and enjoy a sweet margin. JMHO

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          #40
          Originally posted by the big wheel View Post
          So that’s why the Dow dropped on speculation of trade tariffs? If it wasn’t a factor it wouldn’t be an issue for the us markets. But it is.
          How many American companies outsource work to China? Those aren’t just Chinese companies involved with the tariffs.
          Total over reaction by the DOW as it usually does. Tomorrow it will be up 10% when they realize just how small the Chinese leverage really is. Trump is putting tarrifs on 500B worth of good. China put them on $60B mostly farm products. Trump targeted their entire economy, Chia target soybeans. Trump can easily give US farmers assistance for a couple yrs. $12B is nothing. But can china do the same on $500B worth of goods? Nope.

          Trump can go even further. he can sanction any country that chooses to do business with china. Just like he did to Iran. make countries pick sides. Iran has been cut off from capital and the US banking system. Transactions are still cleared in US dollars, they still have the reserve currency.
          Last edited by jazz; May 13, 2019, 21:49.

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            #41
            Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
            The prices will come down to remain competitive but retail will increase prices and enjoy a sweet margin. JMHO
            Well which country can absorb the tariffs if they increase local prices? Americans who have an median annual household income of $84,000 or Chinese who have a median annual income of $10,000 and have 1 billion peasants in the country side who don't have toilets.

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              #42
              Well I guess Isis or whatever it was called had been stamped out for 15 minutes, time for a new boogie man ... the stock market collapse and war .... lol

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                #43
                Just something else for the peasants to panic about.
                Never ending B/S to keep the masses distracted

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                  #44
                  BTW, just because someone dislikes,Trump, it doesn't make him a socialist. I just don't like lunatics that stand at a rally with The Bible in his hand talking about Pro Life while the truth about his sex with a porn star is swirling.

                  Also, so Trump tries to bring American companies back to manufacturing in the US. But same companies left the US because of high labour costs. So Trump is trying to force companies back into the hands of unionized workers? Almost sounds like extreme socialism to me.

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                    #45
                    Originally posted by jazz View Post
                    Well which country can absorb the tariffs if they increase local prices? Americans who have an median annual household income of $84,000 or Chinese who have a median annual income of $10,000 and have 1 billion peasants in the country side who don't have toilets.
                    84,000 dollars can buy a lot of cheap Chinese products. And some of them are not the cheap low end stuff but cheap name brands. When USA prices go up it will be interesting to see if the 10,000 gang suffer more or the 84,000 gang.
                    What trump is doing is making the millionaires billionaires and the middle class will pay for it.

                    That dumb **** has no plan what so ever other than play his high roller I don’t care if I go bankrupt because all the working people will pay for it anyway routine. Over and over Ian’s over again. All you right-tards supporting the man with his hand up his daughters panties, who wants to build America but never pays taxes well who’s going to pay for the build then hahahahaha

                    The art of the dim whit con man is the latest novel.

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                      #46
                      There are how many billion people in the world and how many Americans? Building a protective wall around yourself and deleting trade who in the right *** mind actually thinks that will be long term sustainable? This is a short term feel good about ourselves stunt. Long term will put them back decades. The name of the game is trade and foreign markets for your goods. Not what this retarted prick is doing.

                      You can’t say truduea is a dud for ruining trade relations and then say it’s good if trump does it.

                      The fake news is that the rest of the world is backwards and not striving ahead. I take it that must come from some who haven’t travelled. I haven’t travelled lots but have been to Europe Asia and once to Russia they are not backwards in fact have many advanced technologies transportation is one of many. Who is going to buy these high priced goods it won’t be the average American.

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                        #47
                        It is odd. As it was the same Republicans that were all for globalization in the first place.
                        Regan
                        and the bushes .
                        American Capitol should be free to go it wants
                        Wherever it was cheapest to produce.
                        That was the line .
                        And it was only the socialist
                        Lefty's that wanted to keep the tarrifs on.
                        To protect American workers.
                        And the tarrifs were eliminated .


                        So trump is a socialist now.
                        Bringing back all the tarrifs

                        And being backed by all the same
                        People that 25 years ago demanded
                        Tarrifs be abolished.

                        That is if nothing else
                        Pretty funny.

                        In effect . Most of You are saying the old socialists were
                        Correct

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                          #48
                          Originally posted by sawfly1 View Post
                          It is odd. As it was the same Republicans that were all for globalization in the first place.
                          Regan
                          and the bushes .
                          American Capitol should be free to go it wants
                          Wherever it was cheapest to produce.
                          That was the line .
                          And it was only the socialist
                          Lefty's that wanted to keep the tarrifs on.
                          To protect American workers.
                          And the tarrifs were eliminated .


                          So trump is a socialist now.
                          Bringing back all the tarrifs

                          And being backed by all the same
                          People that 25 years ago demanded
                          Tarrifs be abolished.

                          That is if nothing else
                          Pretty funny.

                          In effect . Most of You are saying the old socialists were
                          Correct
                          That’s exactly right. Gone backwards. And some have the nerve to call me a socialist hahahahaha about as smart as dipshit trump.

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