Carbon tax is working already

[Guest]

-4 last night again
did you look out your window this morning
not supposed to freeze like this every night middle of may
probably even colder in your parts

[Guest]

as far as the city flooding thing , its real simple , even a child should be able to figure it out ?
THERE ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE LIVING TO GOD DAMN CLOSE TO THE GOD DAMN WATER
and therein too much cement & pavement , in case you don't know , it t doesn't absorb water like soil and trees and crops etc.
heres some reading for you;

There are at least three different things happening that make it seem like there are more floods today:

Over the last 50 years, the population of the United States has doubled (U.S. census), so any flood tends to affect a lot more people now. That makes it feel like the floods are more severe.
The media seems to pile on the coverage whenever any flood happens anywhere, so you hear about floods more now than you used to.
Floods today are more severe because of changes that people have made to the landscape.
The third factor is interesting. To understand how flooding can be more severe now, think about a 100-acre piece of land covered in trees. Let's say that 3 inches of rain falls on that land in a heavy downpour. Forested land is extremely good at absorbing and holding water. The leaves on the ground slow the water down and let the ground absorb it. All of that rainfall might be retained by the land and release slowly over several days.

Now imagine the same piece of land converted to a shopping mall. That 100 acres is now completely paved over. If three inches of rain falls, none of it is absorbed. So about 10 million gallons (40 million liters) of water runs straight to the nearest creek or river in a matter of a few minutes. Look around you in any developed area and you see tens of thousands of acres paved over like this. A heavy rain (from a hurricane, for example) can completely overwhelm rivers that were once adequate. The ground is not absorbing any of the water. (You do see efforts to control this sort of runoff in some cities. For example, next to some malls there are huge, dry catch basins. In a heavy rain, they fill with runoff and turn into lakes so that the water isn't immediately dumped into the river.)

The other thing that is happening today is that people now build structures in flood-prone areas and then erect levees and walls to try to keep the water out. Prior to this development, flooding rivers could spread out over wide areas when necessary, and no one noticed. Now, there is nowhere for the water to go except for the narrow, hardened channel of the river itself. The river rises higher, and if it breaches a levy it creates a major disaster.

It is not raining any more than normal. It's just that all of the rain that falls moves into a river very quickly, and the river and flood plains are much narrower than they used to be. This can create much more severe flooding.

actually no more flooding, drought , fires, etc. than normal , just msn dwelling on it , like trump , instead of looking for news
off of a science journal

[sumdumguy]

The government and insurance companies are nuts for paying flood damages on buildings along waterways and lakes. Echo Lake, Crooked Lake, every lake means just that - its a lake and its going to flood as it has every 10-15-20 years. No surprise to most rational thinkers. We own one of those cottages and also know that occasionally we need sand bags and two or three sump pumps and maybe a few repairs. Water has gotten over the retaining wall twice since we owned it. No need for government or taxpayers, buyer beware!

[recapped]

Quote from Chuck

"I am still waiting on somebody to actually provide some scientific evidence with references and sources to backup their opinions, but nothing. Just the usual BS and irrelevant political statements."



And I'm still waiting for you to Name one alarmist event that has actually come true.

[fjlip]

This TRUE, how is this a BAD world ending catastrophe?
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth

[Guest]

Froze again last night , every night in may except one and all the las week of april

How are you enjoying this solar mininum chuckles ??

Still snowbirds here , they musta heard about justnotready’s carbon scam and how good it is cooling things off and since the ice is all gone up north they will just stay here since its so fn cold here

[Guest]

This TRUE, how is this a BAD world ending catastrophe?
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth

It isnt
But the crooked sons a ******* cant make any money sayin all is well

[chuckChuck]

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth
"The beneficial impacts of carbon dioxide on plants may also be limited, said co-author Dr. Philippe Ciais, associate director of the Laboratory of Climate and Environmental Sciences, Gif-suv-Yvette, France. “Studies have shown that plants acclimatize, or adjust, to rising carbon dioxide concentration and the fertilization effect diminishes over time.”

[chuckChuck]

The following link provides a list of the current impacts from climate change. Scientists have been predicting these impacts for decades and are collecting data that shows they are happening now.

https://www.ucsusa.org/our-work/global-warming/science-and-impacts/global-warming-impacts

Yes it has been a cool spring in some areas.

As we have discussed before, a faster warming arctic and decreased temperature differentials has affected the jet stream and scientists are showing that this is impacting weather patterns which can lead to blocking patterns which can create long term heat waves and cold events.

Read about it here:
https://www.ucsusa.org/global-warming/science-and-impacts/science/cold-snow-climate-change.html

[fjlip]

Atmospheric temperature measurements show an average warming of 0.85 degrees Celsius (1.53 degrees Fahrenheit) from 1880 to 2012, according to the IPCC Fifth Assessment Report (AR5). Globally-averaged temperatures in 2016 were 1.78 degrees Fahrenheit (0.99 degrees Celsius) warmer than the mid-20th century mean. According to researchers at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), the rate of warming during the first 15 years of the twenty-first century has been at least as great as the last half of the twentieth century. 2016 was the warmest year on record globally, with 16 of the 17 warmest years on record occurring since 2001.

Federal agencies, universities, and research centers around the world have all concluded that Earth is warming. That is based in hard data, such as temperature measurements on land and water around the world over the course of decades.

There no way most of us would EVER believe a WORLD temp accurately measured to a hundredth of a degree! With NO errors, more accurate measuring compared to DECADES ago? Get serious, it's all BULLSHIT made up, estimates, false data! A thinking reasoning person will never accept their numbers.

[chuckChuck]

Scientists use multiple sources of data including satellites. There are four major data sets.

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/world-of-change/DecadalTemp

The line plot below shows yearly temperature anomalies from 1880 to 2014 as recorded by NASA, NOAA, the Japan Meteorological Agency, and the Met Office Hadley Centre (United Kingdom). Though there are minor variations from year to year, all four records show peaks and valleys in sync with each other. All show rapid warming in the past few decades, and all show the last decade as the warmest.



The heat trapping qualities of CO2 are well understood. There may be be small differences in the data sets but the trends are clear, rising global temperatures.

Sea ice decline and glacier decline are the obvious signs of rising temperatures. If you go to the Columbia ice fields in BC it is very obvious that the glaciers are shrinking.

Are you in denial about the shrinking glaciers as well?

Your opinion on the science of climate change is irrelevant. What is relevant is scientific evidence. No one has ever presented published credible scientific evidence from a climate scientist or their organizations backing up your claim this is all made up. You might as well be a member of the flat earth society because that is how much credibility you have.

[Radical]

Just saw this posted by a person working up north...typical example of the CORRUPT WORTHLESS data being used...

The CBC JUST PUT OUT A LEAKED REPORT SAYING THE NORTH IS WARMING AT TEMPERTURES 2.5 TIMES GREATER THAN THE REST OF THE WORLD.... THIS IS WHAT I PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS IN THE ARCTIC...The air quality monitoring stations that were installed after 2000 are a point of faulty data collection. The person who installed them (i helped them find locations for the ones in Inuvik and Yellowknife) were placed in locations to to get 'hits' ... when I asked the person in charge why he wanted them in locations where it would obvious give high readings he told me they want 'hits' so they can get more funding. I thought that was bad science so I would only approve a site that was average air quality for the town of Inuvik by a soccer pitch and no buildings or traffic near it... since they are going to use that single point to represent the surrounding 500 km I felt that was best... the person complained to the SAO and Mayor ... but I held firm on my assertion that the location away from direct sources of pollution was a better location to collect a representative sample. Since I moved away they moved the air quality station next to the boiler end on one of the larger buildings in Inuvik (Midnight Sun Rec Center) obviously to get 'hits' ... the air quality monitoring station in Yellowknife (see pictures) is next to one of the larger sewage lift stations (think pig barn) in the city... I would get calls a couple times a year from environment Canada asking about a high numbers...LOL! so the data from any of these sources are suspect... not because I don't believe data... quite the opposite ... I collect and analyze data professionally... there are serious problems when the data is collected to get 'hits'... the report 'leaked' by CBC has been fixed with 20 years of manipulated data... we are being miss-lead.
If this is happening on Canadas Arctic... where else has the data collected been placed so the monitoring system will get 'hits'?